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Bigotry page for non- North Carolinians
skrumgaer wrote
at 8:37 AM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Cypher: "Besides the raising of children marriage also includes benefits in old age pensions, visiting rights, taxes and so on. Just to name a few other partly economic aspects without accepting economics to be the reason to marry."

These are the rights I said that states would take away from married couples rather than be forced to give them to homosexual couples. States might abolish civil marriage altogether. There are some countries (such as Israel) where civil marriages do not exist, only ecclesiastical ones.

I am getting new support from an unexpected quarter. President Obama, in saying he does not support the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), said that issued of marriage are traditionally left to the states!

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Cal Ripken wrote
at 7:57 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
Give me a break, man. Just because people who don't approve think it's a choice, doesn't mean it is.

You've talked to a homosexual before, right? Did they choose their sexuality?

Better yet, did you? I'd love to know that moment where instead of realizing you liked girls, you actually weighed both options and then just picked girls. Nothing steered you towards it - could switch back in forth, even, right? I mean if sexuality is a choice we could all choose to be gay for today and then choose to be straight again tomorrow.
Thraxle wrote
at 7:59 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
Is bisexuality a choice?
Cal Ripken wrote
at 7:59 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
"What percentage of parents do you think would have this vaccine administered to their children?"

Probably the same % that would choose the kid's height, hair color, etc...

Have you seen Gattaca?
Cal Ripken wrote
at 8:00 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
Is bisexuality a choice?

No.
Sharon Stone 69 wrote
at 8:03 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
God damn right bisexuality is a choice!
Sharon Stone 69 wrote
at 8:05 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
Yeah, Gattaca was a cool flick.

What if it isn't found in the genes, just a simple chemical imbalance in the brain? The reason people oppose homosexuality is due to the thought that it's unnatural. So if it can be eliminated by a simple vaccine, would it be chosen by parents?
Sharon Stone 69 wrote
at 8:06 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
I think I'll play this account. I need a good pic from the Basic Instinct days.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 8:06 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
Sexuality is a spectrum. People can choose to act on attraction or not.
Marius_1987 wrote
at 8:06 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
Ok, so its ok to discriminate against things that can't be proven scientifically as something you're born with. So would you find it acceptable to pass laws prohibiting anyone working on wallstreet from getting married? Their flashy lifestyle and greed is revolting, and they shouldn't be rewarded for leaning towards that style of life.
Vermont wrote
at 8:07 AM, Friday May 11, 2012 EDT
A few points:

First of all, skrum makes me cringe whenever I read one of his posts. It's as if he tries really hard to sound mentally unwell.

Second, in response to something JP said:
"Because you're talking about rape. Like inside the exact definition of it. Minors can't "consent" in the eyes of the law. "

In the eyes of the law...exactly. Aren't you arguing that laws should change because some of them are inherently bigoted? Would you like to discuss what law currently says about marriage? I understand what you're trying to say, but that particular line of reasoning is not consistent.

I believe what you're actually arguing is that there is a right and wrong regarding acceptable sexual behavior, and laws should be enacted, repealed, or modified to support your beliefs.
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