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skrumgaer wrote
at 8:37 AM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Cypher: "Besides the raising of children marriage also includes benefits in old age pensions, visiting rights, taxes and so on. Just to name a few other partly economic aspects without accepting economics to be the reason to marry."

These are the rights I said that states would take away from married couples rather than be forced to give them to homosexual couples. States might abolish civil marriage altogether. There are some countries (such as Israel) where civil marriages do not exist, only ecclesiastical ones.

I am getting new support from an unexpected quarter. President Obama, in saying he does not support the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), said that issued of marriage are traditionally left to the states!

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Thraxle wrote
at 3:00 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
I mean if you are going to argue that point meagles then you need to apply it to other circumstances too. A part of society thinks it is socially acceptable to be homosexual while others think it is disgusting.

An extremely small part of society thinks fucking little children is socially acceptable (crazy fuckers), while normal people think it is disgusting. Why is the larger minority being held at a higher standard than the much smaller minority? Crazy fuckers that like to fondle little children have rights too, don't they?
Cal Ripken wrote
at 3:07 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Hey there we go with the fucked up incest comparisons. Awesome.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 3:09 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Excuse me, pedophilia. Last time it was incest.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 3:11 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
also, the answer to your question, Thrax is: Because homosexuals are fighting for the ability to get married to their adult consensual, not to rape children. That's the difference.
Thraxle wrote
at 3:13 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Why is it fucked up? Because it isn't socially acceptable? Isn't this entire subject based on a discussion surrounding what is socially acceptable? Just because you think it's disgusting doesn't make it wrong, does it? Isn't that the argument you're making against those that disagree with homosexuality? Some feel it is disgusting, but others think it isn't.

Tell me the difference please.
Thraxle wrote
at 3:15 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
You call it rape, but what about consensual sex between a 50 year old man and a 14 year old girl. Is that OK? Are you comfortable with that? I think it's pretty disgusting, just like pedophilia. But some would be just fine with it. Why is that less valid than the argument for marriage between gay people?
Cal Ripken wrote
at 3:24 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Because you're talking about rape. Like inside the exact definition of it. Minors can't "consent" in the eyes of the law.

You're comparing to the sexuality of roughly 10% of adults to the actions of the severely disturbed. Yes, I realize there are people who find homosexuals to also be "severely disturbed" just like there were/are people who find inter-racial couples severely disturbed or pre-marital sex depraved and disturbed. Just because something makes people uncomfortable doesn't mean it should be fucking regulated.

I'm sorry so many people are too close-minded to adapt to the real world, but that's tough shit isn't it? The idea that because some people look at being gay the same way as they look at child rapists does not make it a fair comparison. It makes them fucked up, terrible fucking people.
Marius_1987 wrote
at 3:26 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Because humans take time to develop and be responsible enough to make their own decisions regarding something as serious as sex? Fair enough that you want to play devils advocate, but you can't compare homosexuals to pedophiles.

Cal Ripken wrote
at 3:28 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
I mean if there were a sect of people who said "I think people who have sex on Sundays are disgusting and unnatural just like pedophiles" and that sect of people had enough of a voice to influence legislation and the Republican party largely supported this opinion, would you be defending that, too?

You would be saying "tell me how consenting adults wanting to have sex on Sundays is different than pedophilia? Lots of people think both is wrong? Children can agree to have sex, right? Explain to me the difference!"

Thraxle wrote
at 3:33 PM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
I'm not comparing the acts, I'm comparing the arguments.

And the statistics, in the U.S. anyways, are more like 0.4%-1.0% of the population being homosexual. That's pretty fucking miniscule.

I just don't like people calling out others as bigots because they don't feel homosexuality is normal, and that's what most of the supporters are doing. OMG, FUCK YOU NORTH CAROLINA, FUCKING BIGOTS, FUCKING REDNECKS....etc., etc.

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