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skrumgaer wrote
at 8:37 AM, Thursday May 10, 2012 EDT
Cypher: "Besides the raising of children marriage also includes benefits in old age pensions, visiting rights, taxes and so on. Just to name a few other partly economic aspects without accepting economics to be the reason to marry."
These are the rights I said that states would take away from married couples rather than be forced to give them to homosexual couples. States might abolish civil marriage altogether. There are some countries (such as Israel) where civil marriages do not exist, only ecclesiastical ones. I am getting new support from an unexpected quarter. President Obama, in saying he does not support the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), said that issued of marriage are traditionally left to the states! |
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mandarin wrote
at 2:12 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT this is kdice talk about kdice
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KDICEMOD wrote
at 2:49 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT All religion is learned...and I'm not a Christian. I don't know if I would be gay if I had a bunch of gay friends or homosexual parents. Many people are born many ways. Doesn't mean they deserve to have laws changed for their unique condition.
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Marius_1987 wrote
at 3:08 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT Lol, so if there already was a law that discriminated against people of a certain religion, it shouldn't be changed to their specific condition?
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Marius_1987 wrote
at 3:18 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT "Many people are born many ways. Doesn't mean they deserve to have laws changed for their unique condition." This also kinda contradicts your reasoning against the comparison between gay rights and black rights.
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KDICEMOD wrote
at 3:40 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT I don't think you're gathering my argument. I'm arguing that homosexuality could be a curable condition like polio or mental disorder. I'm asking for proof otherwise. If you're black, brown, yellow or white you should have full equality as those are not "conditions". Am I wrong? Possibly. I'm simply arguing the point.
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Marius_1987 wrote
at 4:00 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT And religious belief could be equally curable, not that most within those groups seem to want to be "cured", is it ok to discriminate against religious groups? Would be nice if you actually answered that instead of scrambling for 100 ;)
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skrumgaer wrote
at 4:04 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT I'm not sure whether something is curable or not makes a difference under the law. It's the current condition that matters. If you have a current propensity to hurt others, you are responsible for keeping that propensity under control now, even if it is harder for you now than it might be later, or it is harder for you than for others. Likewise you are accountable for the current condition of someone you hurt: the "eggshell skull" rule says that you are accountable for injuries you cause to a particular victim even if a normal person would not have suffered so much damage.
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Marius_1987 wrote
at 4:14 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT Are you trying to say that homosexuals are responsible for the "injury" it causes to christians, even if your average joe wouldn't take any harm from their actions/lifestyle? If so, thats seriously messed up.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 4:21 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT Homosexuals are responsible for the curse on the land they cause by their actions (not propensity).
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jurgen wrote
at 4:27 PM, Sunday May 13, 2012 EDT 100,00
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