"Remember you have to measure this stuff relative to what expenses their administration added and relative to their purposeful decreases in revenue (be it from cutting excise taxes or income tax)."

I have to measure it that way? Why, because it makes Obama seem like less of a dipshit?

So let's say I get hired to do a job. I'm taking the place of a man who held the post for 8 months and did twice as shitty a job as the guy before him. In my first 2 months I do a 15% shittier job than my predecessor, but I can tell management that it's OK because my 15% shittier job is better than my predecessors 100% shittier job.

Is that the logic you are employing here?

No I'm saying you can't say the second guy is the worst guy ever at the job because he only added %15 when the guy before him added say 115% of mess he might have to clean up.

And even if we did measure presidential success by how fiscally responsible they were then Clinton would be the most successful president since WW2. But I don't think you're ready to make that claim are ya?

No, I don't care about Clinton....or Carter....or FDR...or Bush 1 or 2...or Regan...I care about my current president and will always care about my current president....and my current president is not doing a very good job by many standards.

I don't care about blaming the past (which is all Obama does). I care about fixing the future regardless of which party you belong to. The left had nearly complete control of the goverment for 2 years and didn't get a whole lot accomplished.

Reagan*

EDIT BUTTON RYAN!!!

"You missed a word....I fixed it. You'll see in two more years."
-Thraxle

BO: "Remember that time you voted for the most fiscally irresponsible president in our history?"

Which one was that? Why do you always assume things you do not know...

This is your problem. In your own mind; you know everything. Including things that are impossible for you to know; like who I voted for.

BO: "Dead do you advocate destitution, poverty and discrimination?"

Is this what your arguments have devolved into?

BO: ""Today's events further underscore the U.S. government's lack of transparency and accountability to the American people."
-rand paul

I don't get why it's okay for rand paul to suggest the government is more transparent and accountable but if a progressive suggests it deadcode loses his shit"

Read that quote again. Then retract your statement. Lol. BO! Grab a hold of yourself.

i said meant to say it needs more transparency dawg u kno dat.


dead would you rather be a guy or a girl?

BO: "i said meant to say it needs more transparency dawg u kno dat."

I didn't know that. I totally agree with more transparency in government; but what is your point? Obama is less transparent then Bush. Bush was less transparent then his predecessors; and so on and so on. The trend is going the wrong way and it also is in parallel to the growth of government.

Bigger government = more secrets; IMO.

BO: "dead would you rather be a guy or a girl?"

I dunno. I only have one reference point. If there was a way to try both I would give you answer but there is not.

Would you rather be an Arabian horse or an Icelandic horse?