I want to clarify something.

I said WE do not have PGAs as in the new players. I do not have close enough relationships to form a PGA with anyone. All you older players have played over and over with one another and thus created PGAs (Regardless of if you admit to them or not).

As a new player, do you think it's wise to annoying an older player without knowing who else at that table is on his side? Do you want us to attack but know others will attack back not to solidify their game, but to protect their partner?

Also, to sound completely full of myself, I must be doing something right in this game to be getting where I am at now. My play might not be your play, but what makes it any less effective?

i agree with whoever said the chique cliche "don't have the player, hate the game."

the current system rewards chatbox manipulators, which is what my natural style of play was. it used to be that if i would bitch and try to manipulate at a table, i would quickly get gangraped by everyone else present. over the last several months, the opposite has happened, and whiny manipulating bitches like me for some reason get rewarded handsomely.

sam and i always differed in our game play. when he saw his situation as hopeless, he would suicide/flag out asap, and save dom. when i would find myself in the exact same situation, i would never flag, would start my chatbox begging/manipulation, and ten minutes later would have 5th instead of 7th, with a couple hundred extra points than i woulda had if i had suicided asap. but i had no self-esteem left.

anyways, the name of the game (for those of us who like to compete), is to adapt to the changes that Ryan has made. at one point during kdice history, that meant i had to stfu in chatbox, or else i would bring down holy hell on myself. now, it means that abusing the chatbox will always help you.

and yes, fin, i suck, because i was one of the first to create this chatbox/manipulator style of play, and now there are a few people who have learned to imitate me (or have independently realized it works so well). but, dr yellowfishnoob, you of all people are not allowed to bitch about this. about a year ago, i made my other disgusting kdice strategy creation: the infamous msak (montecarlo style ass kissing, for those of you noobs). everyone eventually realized that this tactic was the lamest of the lame. yet it worked, and got me more points than others. it worked so well, that several others decided to praise it, and imitate it. and who was the strongest imitation?

yeah, once i stopped msak-ing because i realized how stupidly lame it was... we all joked that it should be renamed the ysak. guess what y stands for, fin? so dont bitch at others copying my lame innovative strats, cus you did it too, buster. yeah. buster. thats right.

on a completely different note, tourneys need to be adjusted so that lucky starts dont dictate so much. it was sad to see the early 5stack cascade of flags: "im no threat, just want 2nd" "im no threat to either of you, just want 3rd" "im just fighting for 4th" (x4). tourneys are a great development, they just need to be tweaked somehow. any ideas?

OMG, monte is alive!!!

Hi monte!

CLASSIC! Monte proves that yellowfin is the unsuccessful monte-wanna-be.

The problem monte is that your chatbox manipulation was classic it was done well and rewareded both you and the player you were working with.

This new style is lame becuase unlike you it only looks out for the intrest of the weak ass player doing it. When you make chatbox moves you did not make weak board moves at the same time. What frustrates me is the chatbox has become the only tool and good game play has been replaced by the willingness to take a lower position and make weak moves. It gets frustrating when you play well and get punished because you dont play bad and give your game to someone else. It gets even more frustrating when other players just sit and take it.

You would think as soon as soon as someone says they will flag 2 everyone would be on them becuase that means they are either going to take less than 2nd or 1st. but people dont do that they just accept the fact that a player can sit and take their position while they have to fight and take a lower position even if they were stronger before the fight started.

Dumb play in my book on from both parties.

My favorite move in "new" KDice is when a player has an 8 stack in my backyard, but a base somewhere else. They are in 2nd, but way behind 1st. They tell 1st that they will flag, and before 1st even acknowledges him he feels free to use his "spare" 8 stack on me and destroy me, killing any chance I had for 1st, 2nd and probably 3rd or 4th too.

That is weak play in my opinion, and I've seen it happen at least 5 times this month.

Weaker than this is the fact that everyone honors this weak move and gives him the 2nd

ITS THA NEWWWWWWWW STYLE..... 4 and 3 and 2 and 1

monte, never criticized, you have been the ultimate innovator and exploiter of the failures in the game. However, your adaptions, good or bad, have been exponentially exploited to the point where there is no game playing at all, simply first to flag 1-2-3

I am not too offended by the early chatbox flag and acceptance of flag if there is legitimate consideration involved. Consideration is required for any valid contract.

If some guy has 1 dice next to your 8 stack and says 'i vflag' then it doesnt mean anything.

I hate it when some meaningless flag is accepted and 1st place protects this player and forces a 10 minute build-up and battle between two people fighting for 5th place.

So much time is wasted during this process, it isnt competitive because everyone is just hitting end turn and not playing. BUT THIS IS NEW KDICE!

In new kdice if you attack a weak flag to speed up the game, or even if you attack a weak flag to improve your own position... people will get mad and yell and give you bad reviews.

I remember when it was bad etiquette to make people wait for your flag. Now it is bad etiquette to kill someone flagged out of position.