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THE CABAL NEVER LEFT, WE STOPPED LOOKING
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leekstep wrote
at 4:24 AM, Friday January 11, 2008 EST
KDICE ? Fun Game.
Once again, I am ?retiring? from kDice while leading the month. I would like to tell everyone that I am once again Retiring because of PGAs and cheating. The truth is that I don?t have the time to play much for the rest of the month. I have no chance of winning. Anyway, I want to APOLOGIZE PERSONALLY to the current Cabal team-PGA members: VERMONT, DASFURY, MONTECARLO, WISHBONE, BCMATTEAGLES, and MADHAT SAM. This Team of PGAs are no worse than any of the other groups at the elite tables. But since they are the most successful, most innovative, and best players - who frequently determine the outcomes of games based upon PGAs (rather than the game itself or the chatbox)? ?I feel IT IS FAIR to target them as a group (even though they are all great guys personally). For example, Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds aren?t the only people to use steroids in baseball, but everyone focuses on them because they are the best. I feel that someone needs to instill a respect for the competitive nature of kDice. There should be more value placed on ?in-game strategy?, rather than always rewarding people with the best PGAs. Anyway I want to apologize to each member of the cabal for targeting them for their actions. If any of us get the opportunity to play with one of them alone, they are often very good and fun and useful competitors. But I do not apologize for revealing the Cabal PGA actions AS A GROUP. The Cabal certainly isn?t the most dishonorable group of PGAs. The Cabal is just the most talented and successful group. Anyway since Ryan has been unable to find PGA fixes? It is upon us, the competitors, to act as the anti-PGA force in this game. I feel very strongly about cleaning up the game, so I have chosen to endure many months of argumentation with some of the best players. VERMONT, DASFURY, MONTECARLO, WISHBONE, BCMATTEAGLES, and MADHAT SAM : Your PGA actions aren?t at all uncommon, but we have to make an example of you. As a considerate kDice community member, there is an easy way to keep The Cabal from PGAs in the future. KILL THEM! For many months the ANTI-CABAL has been successful in keeping The Cabal from ultimate success in the standings. but it seems like the most active ANTI-CABAL members are losing hope of stopping the cheaters. Mikeypoo, Cabbage, Big Jumblies, Joex, Tsjombe, WayneRooney, Facejon, Jagger, XLUCKX, RND, Linch, and Canarioz have all done well in their pursuit of defeating the unfair efforts of the cabal. I don't think the lack of Anti-PGA / Anti-Cabal sentiment is due to lack of passion in the game. I am afraid that the lack of Anti-PGA / Anti-Cabal sentiment is due to the cleverness of The Cabal, their ability to outsmart the gaming public. I have seen many unknowing pawns (people who don?t get fair treatment from the cabal), yet these pawns often don't even realize they are victims of fixed games. Some of the new players or more casual players may not have observed enough games to recognize what VERMONT, DASFURY, MONTECARLO, WISHBONE, BCMATTEAGLES, and MADHAT SAM are doing. I hear a ton of people (especially new people) complaining about the elitism of kDice, but many of them don?t know that the Cabal is pulling the strings. Even worse are the foolish competitors who think they are part of the ?in-crowd?. Each member of The Cabal has PGAs with additional players, yet the add-ons generally tend to reward the Cabalmroe than they get rewarded. It is like a pyramid scheme, n00b pawns feed favors to the cabal hoping that one day they will get a chance to win. There are many very reasonable people who sometimes get favors from cabal members. There are even people who are naive enough to believe there are no PGAs. It is so funny to see an ignorant pawn like Kehoe claim there is no PGA, no cabal, while he thinks he?s getting special favors from them. Meanwhile The Cabal use him for favors all the time and he gets little in return. The thing that pawns like Kehoe don?t see - are the brilliant tactics that Cabal members are able to employ to help each other. Even if these pawns think they are part of the ?in-crowd? or PGA with the cabal, these pawns will often find themselves ?accidentally? cut off to your connection, ?accidentally? blocked into attacking a strong enemy, ?accidentally? prevented from access to the neutral/enemy territories required to go up in the standings, or otherwise undermined in effort to improve Cabal standings. Actually I don?t have much sympathy for these pawns, because they should know better, they have been warned, they are victims and facilitators of evil Cabal actions. I often laugh when watching games where these pawns avoid obstructed from their best opportunity to win, in order to please their Cabal master. GOOD DOGGIE! Good Boy! If ANY KDICER happens to be lured by The Cabal for favors, or you happen to be their full-out bitch: I can only pity you. I hope one day you will grow a sack of balls and start competing! And for everyone else (the other 4000 active accounts): I hope you can clean up the game. Surely the Cabal is not the only group of cheaters. Surely the Cabal isn?t the worst group of cheaters. But you can start here. You can make them stop cheating! If any of them are sitting, you can be 90% positive they have a PGA sitting with them. If there are two or more, the game is just a waste of time! Anyway, here is my solution to the Cabal PGA problem. If you see these players sitting at your table, they are probably PGA with someone else. Even if you think you are their PGA, it is quite possible they will obstruct you for a more important PGA. Your best move is to KILL THEM ON SIGHT. Dear KDice Community, NEVER TRUST THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS AND KILL THEM ON SIGHT: MONECARLO, VEMRONT, WISHBONE, DASFURY, BCMATTEAGLES, MADHAT SAM And if you see some stupid pawns sucking up to them, people like Kehoe, you probably better kill them, too. |
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fiero600 wrote
at 3:51 AM, Saturday January 12, 2008 EST so......if they're so obvious, why does ryan not kick them out???
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chiton wrote
at 4:27 AM, Saturday January 12, 2008 EST hmm, so that's why I don't like the upper tables?
I thought it was more kind of a "group dynamics" thingie, of people who play together too often and prefer attacking a newbie instead of an better know player of whom they are sure of to meet more often and who might get angry in further games... |
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nuflis wrote
at 5:58 AM, Saturday January 12, 2008 EST leek, I'm confused, as a top25 player the last 5 months, i don't know if I'm a pawn, a cheater or a naive... or everything at the same time.
Seriously, i played hundreds of games with members of the "cabal", sometimes they are friendly to each other and sometimes they are not, they are "point-hungry" and use to make the right moves to get the higher points they can gain.... I can't see anything wrong on it. hmmm, maybe I'm a naive. |
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montecarlo wrote
at 10:21 AM, Monday January 14, 2008 EST [14:02] montecarlo: why did you list rnd as a freedom fighter?
[14:03] leekstep: oh, well [14:03] leekstep: i wanted to take credit for int and rnd and luck wins [14:03] leekstep: and pet too [14:03] leekstep: so like i didnt know how to include them [14:03] montecarlo: take credit? [14:03] montecarlo: wtf you think theyre your puppets? [14:03] montecarlo: lol [14:03] leekstep: sure i backed them all [14:03] leekstep: no [14:03] leekstep: i was their soldier [14:04] leekstep: i backed them for the win [14:04] montecarlo: dude i backed pet [14:04] montecarlo: ask sam [14:04] montecarlo: i was pissed that he farmed me on 5k [14:04] leekstep: well you weret there at the 11th hour [14:04] montecarlo: i was against sam since that 5k [14:04] leekstep: its true you did 99% of the work [14:05] leekstep: but at 11.30 sam was first [14:05] leekstep: and i farmed the fuck out of him [14:05] leekstep: kept him from starting a new game [14:05] montecarlo: oh. [14:05] leekstep: then got someone to sit the last game of the month [14:05] montecarlo: <---- wasnt there [14:05] leekstep: ryan said [14:06] leekstep: "month over" [14:06] leekstep: as we were waiting [14:06] leekstep: so i called in a favor [14:06] leekstep: got someone to sit [14:06] leekstep: after 12.00 [14:06] leekstep: then i shielded pet from the 6th place he deserved [14:06] leekstep: killed sam [14:06] leekstep: and gave pet the win [14:06] leekstep: it was pretty glorious [14:06] leekstep: sam sabotaged me in july [14:07] leekstep: when i had top 5 elo [14:07] leekstep: like 3 games chose to 5v5 me instead of connect through wish or das [14:08] montecarlo: ahhh ok [14:08] leekstep: and in the old system losing that elo [14:08] leekstep: was everything [14:08] leekstep: cuz i dont selective sit [14:08] leekstep: so i dont often have 10 game winning streaks [14:08] leekstep: so i never get to earn on my elo [14:09] montecarlo: who ever selectively sat??? [14:09] montecarlo: just rnd? [14:09] leekstep: riser [14:09] leekstep: riser the worst [14:11] leekstep: yeah i didnt know what to do about int, xc, luck and rnd in my post [14:11] leekstep: they were all the worst cheaters [14:11] montecarlo: oh yeah, i never played with riser [14:11] montecarlo: literally [14:11] leekstep: far worse than any of the cabal [14:11] montecarlo: he never sat with me [14:11] leekstep: he was the #1 cheater i ever saw |
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leekstep wrote
at 10:34 AM, Monday January 14, 2008 EST I was surprised to find that you also supported Petomni. He was oft the victim of not receivieng enough support from The Cabal.
Interesting reality that in this competitive game it takes team support to succeed. BCMATTEAGLES described it best: leekstep: about 95% games have PGAs AlmogBitton: cuz I guess no one like you ever told me bcmatteagles: more like teams then pgas lol bcmatteagles: its like in bike racing bcmatteagles: u got ur lance armstrong but u got team discovery or whatever bcmatteagles: u draft each other to take the lead |
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TheCabal wrote
at 12:49 PM, Monday January 14, 2008 EST Guys, just calm down, i'm back. No need to look any longer!
Hey Leek chill out man, you must be a new one 'cause i don't remember you but maybe you should stop using my for no apparant reason. Seems like you're kindling a fire that really had been embers now... Less than 5% of players online are anything like what you are saying and i think i know what you are trying to say, you can't keep up with everyone else's incessant PGA'ing so you are trying to name and shame the top players who do, which isn't the way, other people will just take their place so why don't you put your efforts into something more productive rather than fuel hatred for yourself and others. Or face up to the fact you cannot remove PGA'ing without removing all of the players...(or in lamans terms "stfu".) |
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leekstep wrote
at 1:06 PM, Monday January 14, 2008 EST Good Point!
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 6:05 PM, Monday January 14, 2008 EST Well there are so many half-truths with plenty of bullshit on top of that in this thread I would just like to say that maybe some of take all this a little to seriously. The fun of the game does seem lost sometimes in all the crap that goes on.
So in closing "lighten up francis..." |
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wishbone wrote
at 1:21 AM, Tuesday January 15, 2008 EST if i had a favorite type of potato chip it would be the crab chip by UTZ
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rnd wrote
at 1:42 AM, Tuesday January 15, 2008 EST omg they make crab flavored chips?
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