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did anybody else notice the alltime top ten?
montecarlo wrote
at 8:44 AM, Sunday December 2, 2007 EST
on the afternoon of december 1, i logged on to kdice.com, and was taken to a page that showed december's current top ten along with the alltime top ten. everything seemed okay until i realized the most controversial name of kdice was missing. alltime number 1 was X LUCK X... who if i remember right from last time, should be alltime number 2 behind....

rnd seems to have been disappeared by the authorities of kdice. all his domination seems to have been farmed away instantly. i mean, i guess we all know he was never that good. he just played 1200 games a month, thats all.

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stopcheating wrote
at 12:42 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
Wow!
RNDbot 1 wrote
at 4:34 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
Nuflis. I agree with you about RND and LuckX.
And for the record I PGA-ed you and backstabb-ed you!! I used you -- and I feel deep shame :(
Forgive me?
JDizzle787 wrote
at 5:57 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
I thought it was monte for kdice prez...
JKD wrote
at 6:50 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
There's no rules against using multi-accounts at same table but you know it's cheating because there's programming to try and prevent that. There's no rules against pga but rnd isn't all-time #1 anymore so think about what that means before claiming it's okay to pga

All the pga's aren't punished, but neither are all the people who use two accounts at same table. Both groups of players are now officially cheaters on kdice and worthy of being ignored. I don't know what exactly rnd has done --aside from what has been admitted in these forums-- but whatever, ignore the other players who are no better than those who use two accounts at same table
Kehoe wrote
at 9:02 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
See this is why you're missing the whole point.

Quote:
"There's no rules against using multi-accounts at same table but you know it's cheating because there's programming to try and prevent that. There's no rules against pga but rnd isn't all-time #1 anymore so think about what that means before claiming it's okay to pga "

What were saying is that Ryan needs to show some consistency. I know Ryan and RND had some kind of falling out. I also know when all this shit was going on it was so rampant it wasn't even funny. There were no rules about it when this was going on and it was in the wide open. Ryan just kind of ignored it for so long and is now trying to go back and repaint kdice history as if RND didn't exist. But the true fact is he is one of the pillars of what kdice was and to leave him out cause he PGAed when everyone else was doing the same thing is just petty.
sypgo wrote
at 10:27 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
Common guys - obviously there is some misunderstandings here. Ryan as our beloved father has tried to adopt an easy-going approach to the kdice community, probably hoping that we could sort out these rules ourselves. And, hell, yeah, we sometimes did.

But more importantly, he probably thinks (I may be jumping to conclusions here) that kdice is about the fun of playing, not about medals or trying to get a high rank by managing to do something which the programming tried to prevent.

So, I'd say that it's only fair for him to define how kdice should be played in his opinion by expressing his opinion about who the top 10 are. I think we know that some people here deem rnd should figure in the top 10. So, hey, write a thread to define who your top 10 are. And personally, why do people put so much emphasis on these placements and medals anyway ...
biteme wrote
at 10:54 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
> So, I'd say that it's only fair for him to define how kdice should be played in his opinion by expressing his opinion about who the top 10 are.

I don't it's fair. It may be within Ryan's rights, but I don't see it as fair. Ryan can either be a god, or a peer, but not both. If he's a god, then fairness doesn't enter the picture as Ryan does as Ryan wants. When Ryan bans people (like dicelord), he's being a god, not fair. It might be within his rights, it might be morally right, it might be popular, but it's not fair.

I am saddened by the Ryan and RND rift. They are both larger than life internet characters who provide enjoyment. Even their fight provides some entertainment, but not as much as when they are on the samge page.

p.s. Ryan why can't we respond to your blog?
p.p.s. Ryan why do you ignore me?
+GODLIKE+ wrote
at 11:18 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
Dear Ryan,

I read on this thread about certain person having been removed from all time top list and in general not being allowed to play kdice due to cheating. That is right and fine

BUT

If you are going to remove one person for cheating then remove EVERY person who cheats and specially those cases where there is clear evidence of cheating been done.

for example I present you the case of Intergral.

I am claiming he is a cheater, has cheated and proapbly still cheats.

AND

here is the EVIDENCE in a form of youtube video of Integral cheating on Kdice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1at-xanEzXg

Why has this person not been removed from all time top list and from every top list there is in general?

Why is this person who got caught cheating and manipulating the ranks still allowed to play?

Thanks in advance for taking time to read this Ryan

Sincerely,

+GODLIKE+


PS. I know you will read this Integral and in general disagree with the whole post but that is only natural as it is in your advantage to disagree with this as it is your ass on the line so... spare us from whatever you are thinking of replying. The fact is you cheated. You are not known as a person to trust, you are not known as skillful player, you are not known as one of the masters of this game. Simply put you are known as nothing but a CHEATER. Hey anyone can get those ranks and stats by doing the same you did... which is by CHEATING.

ps2. Dont even bother to try to claim you only did it once. Most likely you do things like that all the time. A history professor from University of Cambridge once said that if an event has happened in history the it is extremely likely that it has happened more than once.
+GODLIKE+ wrote
at 11:28 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
What Integral did is worse than what rnd did. What rnd did can be called social engineering. What integral did what plain out cheating. However what rnd did can also be concidered to be cheating. That depends on "rules".

Now since it is painfully obvious that some of the people on various top lists have got there by means of cheating be it PGA's, using mutiple different accounts or whatever way they use to manipulate ranks plus taking into account the fact that most of them have not been removed from top lists and still continue their cheating ways then why excatly should everyone else not start cheating too to get high rank like these people did?

It is kind of annoying that people who have been caught cheating boast on chat abour their FAKE rank when in reality they are not skilled at all.

If PGA's, using multiple accounts on same table and other similar things are allowed (these cheaters like Integral have not been removed from ranks) then why should we not start cheating too?

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at 11:35 PM, Tuesday December 4, 2007 EST
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