The average BCS ranking of FSU's opponents including Florida next weekend is 71.5 and that's if I'm being nice by ranking their TWO FCS opponents 125th (one more than the number of FBS schools).

Murray State - FCS
Savannah State - FCS
Wake Forest - 71st
Clemson - 11th
South Florida - 83rd
NC State (loss) - 66th
Boston College - 103rd
Miami - 55th
Duke - 60th
Va Tech - 69th
Maryland - 86th
Florida - 4th (yet to play)

You only have one win inside the top 50 and a loss to #66. It's not FSU's fault that the ACC sucks so bad, but the BCS computers will not respect a schedule like that.

Compare that with someone like Notre Dame (who really never plays an FCS school) and it looks something like this:

Navy - 57th
Purdue - 64th
Michigan State - 50th
Michigan - 19th
Miami - 55th
Stanford - 8th
BYU - 55th (tied with Miami)
Oklahoma - 13th
Pittsburgh - 80th
Boston College - 103rd
Wake Forest - 71st
USC - 29th

That averages to 50.3 per opponent. I used Notre Dame as an example since they share quite a few opponents, but Notre Dames "out of conference schedule" is much, much stronger.

Bottom line is to stop playing cupcake in September and the computers will respect you more.

Yeah that's actually not FSU's fault. FSU had WVU scheduled in the 2nd week and WVU pulled out because of their move to the Big XII. Now obviously WVU has fallen off a cliff faster than Wile E. Coyote but they're by no means an FCS team. Again, no one's to blame but FSU themselves. Sure, the schedule's weak, but minus that pathetic loss to NCSU, my Noles would definitely be looking at a shot at the NCG. FSU has a habitual problem of playing to their opponents (down or up), but they've generally blown out the teams they're supposed to blow out. Hell, FSU had a lot of 2nd stringers in by the start of the 2nd half against BC, whereas against Notre Dame, BC was into the game well into the 3rd quarter. I'm not particularly a fan of using the transitive property in football, but you've gotta be out of your mind to think that FSU isn't underranked. I wouldn't advocate putting them in the Top 5 just yet, but I could see a Top 5 finish depending on how the UF game goes (fuck every gator) and if FSU gets to/wins the Orange Bowl.

Didn't mean to imply that you're out of your mind or that you suggested FSU wasn't underranked, since you didn't even talk about it, by the way. Bad wording on my part.

Also lol @ Maryland and Rutgers going to the Big 10. Worst BCS conference in the country making itself actively worse. Too bad the ACC bent over for Notre Dame and let them retain their football independence. FSU should totally get the hell out of the ACC and throw its panties at the Big XII or SEC. FSU is totally an SEC team but UF would never allow it.

lol at you digging at a UVA for bragging...then bragging about FSU.

FSU with their lone loss being to Florida = top 5 in the BCS.

FSU with their lone loss being to NC State = where we are today.

Do I think they're better than their ranking? Probably. But they haven't played a schedule that tests that theory. I know that isn't their fault, but it remains a fact.

I didn't brag about FSU at all, in fact if you want to get right down to it, I'm pretty negative about FSU overall. You have to be if you're an FSU fan who's experienced the past decade and has half a brain.

That being said though, UVA fans would suck dick to get to where FSU was at during Bowden's last days. FSU's won two national championships and 12, maybe 13, conference championships in only 20 years of ACC play. UVA has been in the ACC for 50 years and won 2 conference championships, the last one way back in 1995.

Even if I WAS bragging about FSU and ragging on UVA, that's still pretty fucking fair considering the two programs are on completely different levels, even at FSU's worst.

FSU's all-time record vs. UVA: 14-3
FSU's all-time record vs. Duke: 17-0
UVA's all-time record vs. Duke: 33-30

Not. Even. Close.

Did you just use Duke football as a barometer for success? Congrats on being the first person in history to do that.