you can borrow my slide rule if you want Thrax

"when an opportunity arises to help ease the price of oil, no matter how small a change it may make, you fucking take it."


whaaaaaaaaat

What?

http://secure.assets.bostatic.com/frontend/projects/energy-info/img/energygraph2.jpg

Oil and petroleum imports are down an average of more than 1.5 million barrels per day and domestic crude oil production has increased by an average of more than 720,000 barrels per day since 2008. Domestic oil production has gone up every year under President Obama.

Implying this administration isn't doing what it can to cut down oil costs is ludicrous.

Really I was incredulous to your throwing risk v benefit out the window - but I'm sure it was an exaggeration.

I always exaggerate......it's the only way to get 100 post threads. I'm not saying this administration isn't doing a decent job, I just think they could be doing more.

okiedokie

also, where are the facts on this?:

"The unemployment rate still blows (it's coming down mainly because people have given up looking for a job"

chart says 12 percent for 2010 which is around its peak for obama's administration, also coincidentally consistent with every other administration of the last two decades - point is it's nothing when compared to the actual issues which are the fact that we are wasting money on a failed healthcare system which is as you put it - welfare - and we're spending way too much on military upkeep and defense contracts. we should move to a single payer system and get rid of the expensive middleman that is insurance companies (really private equity has no business in healthcare anyway) and that'll save us 10% right there alone. if we work on the military pork we could probably cut the miitary budget by at least 5% without hurting benefits for our armed services which is basically all we've been doing with regards to military cuts.

I do enjoy the game though, when you can't argue against an overarching point you focus on semantics. welfare isn't 1.2 percent, it's 12 percent, social welfare is still not even half of that which in my opinion is fucked. it should be at least 5%+ just to keep us in the same league as other modern nations.

PS you don't have to fudge statistics that we can both read, not sure if you legitimately misread 15% instead of 10% or didn't think i'd check but either way i was guilty of misreading it too so i don't care that much.

Medicare isn't welfare though, seniors paid into medicare and are receiving its benefits, unfortunately at windfall profits for private insurance companies who by the way - lol - have death panels who decide which of them lives or dies based on quarterly reports.

http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea03.pdf

The people "not in the labor force" has increased by about 2 million in the last 12 months whereas the people looking for work has remained fairly constant. Unemployment has dropped by 900k in that same time period.

cool thx