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Dottir takes November TAZD.
skrumgaer wrote
at 9:57 AM, Thursday December 1, 2011 EST
The TAZD and baseball-style standings are explained on my Wall. At least 35 regular games played in the month are require to qualify for the monthly TAZD. Shown are Games Behind, TAZD, and player name.

GB TAZD Player
06 12178 dottir
13 11141 Emre Oguz
03 10171 masticore
00 9719 Invola
39 9539 Shevar
03 8878 OneShot7
18 8842 jona_vicente
06 8419 savif
22 8352 [Ocean]Flushed
32 8336 Mazaman
02 8224 toms
10 8170 what_up23
47 8155 jfdis
08 8113 @ata
24 8064 Az_Balu
17 7666 kostur
20 7604 L3xy
48 7603 bcmatteagles
16 7600 22-Apr
11 7427 Lady Lite
07 7406 Vollhonk
66 7294 Scabbard
26 7159 kdiceplaya!
22 6840 chaiNblade
29 6829 IFIGENIUS
17 6518 FPP
24 6504 _smile_
69 6474 Remiel
43 6441 Simmo3k
40 6411 Mercantile
12 6397 xjxaxnx
11 6328 @Toomyfriends
93 6315 franklyghost
14 6259 Bu7Ch3r
34 6214 fish28
18 6129 Free Flags
19 6043 hcdug
24 5928 kudoukun
18 5921 ovbogaert
14 5907 peter luftig
36 5658 @engr2002
49 5588 EddyB
22 5474 @MikeTamburini
31 5398 Brighty
30 5333 fearlessflyer
39 5281 Lord Death
92 5210 Loobee
35 5123 Gurgi
66 5087 barmat
21 5065 joero14
66 5054 Jily
40 5044 hatty
33 4952 longpube
32 4921 NikkeKnatterton
29 4841 scarp8
54 4794 stackshotbilly
34 4784 OviloN
66 4733 Silesia
100 4730 axlehammer
45 4623 mrb2097
47 4600 nexon
21 4582 Volvic
23 4484 beatol
33 4471 Fatman_x
25 4411 KDancer
41 4306 xXxJozefxXx
25 4289 Keeley
26 4019 euphrates7
87 4003 Rsquared
36 3917 Poker Style
48 3808 "MC"
34 3760 haloducks
41 3641 bivo
69 3261 orestis85
52 3201 greekboi
73 3179 cool g
33 2960 MNK10
57 2817 Trkz
58 2784 greenman
65 2759 These tards suck
76 2714 GreGGwar
70 2500 absolutgimlet
61 2463 Johnboat
44 2285 Kingofskillz
84 2218 DonnieScribbles
93 2208 GR3ENMAN
73 2028 CCSKAOT
94 1253 Kdot
92 1248 ji-jo

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superxchloe wrote
at 10:31 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
jurgen: that logic is exactly right. In the TAZD, having 0% first places will help you just as much as having 14.4% first places. Having 45.8% sevenths is just as good as having 0%.

Let's say someone plays 50 games. All seventh places. Wins a big freeroll, noobluck wins the grand finale or something like that. His TAZD would be 23807 just for the month. But, Jurgen- you don't need top 100 to be in the annual TAZD, you just need to enter. So anyone can be in that- including someone who just loses all the time.
montecarlo wrote
at 10:36 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
two points in skrums defense (wtf am i doing?)

1) the zero datum measures the skill of a noob, not an average player. so in the nfl, the zero datum would be something closer to 4-12 than 8-8.

2) skrum 'childproofed' the tazd awhile back when everyone made the same argument as jurg is making: you can overload the 7ths and easily win. however, keeping to standard skrum methodology, he refused to tell everyone how he childproofed the tazd. so much for the peer review process. he chose to see us all as schemers who wanted to defeat the tazd. wtf. all we want to do is improve it with simple logic.


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one obvious discrepancy that i see is that you have to be in top 100 each month to get on the tazd for the month, yet for the entire year, there is no qualifier like that. hence grandgnu is running away with the competition because he avoids playing easy competition (what he terms as 'top table cheaters'... sorry mods, yall suck, and everyone who plays top tables is a cheater, but thats a different strawman.) anyways, point is that for the yearly, skrum is about to crown someone who wouldve only qualified for one monthly the entire year. ive never heard skrum explain this discrepancy.
jurgen wrote
at 10:37 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
sounds like a new challenge for people then
jurgen wrote
at 10:41 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
OMG, - play -post -chat for monte for funneling a good defence for skrum

but OK, let's say 4-12 is zero datum, is a team with 8 - 8 just as skilled as one with 0-16?
KDICEMOD wrote
at 10:45 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
The 0-16 team wouldn't qualify to get "ranked".

Guys, this is the TEST AGAINST ZERO DATUM......not the TEST AGAINST SKILL FOR ALL
dottir wrote
at 10:50 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
"Guys, this is the TEST AGAINST ZERO DATUM......not the TEST AGAINST SKILL FOR ALL"

lol +1

Shevar wrote
at 10:50 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
if it isnt a measure of skill, it's just a useless stat though
jurgen wrote
at 10:52 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
yup Rob, TAZD is undisputably THE test against zero datum. It's a great statistical tool and skrum's efforts to provide us with this monthly stat are extremely appreciated by the community I am sure, no debate there I think.

but this disucssion started after Vermont wrote "It's relatively high because TAZD isn't actually a measure of skill".
jurgen wrote
at 10:53 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
... and Vermont made a valid point
skrumgaer wrote
at 11:08 AM, Friday December 2, 2011 EST
In the first week, the zero datum is 0-1. In the second week, 0-2. In the 16th week, 0-16. In football, zero is a true zero. If you advance beyond zero, you can't be forced back to it.
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