You are suggesting I am part of the "problem". In order to qualify that you have to identify what the problem is. Is it less and less high tables being played, or OTF/PGA on the high tables? Newsflash I can't get an account to play, let alone the high tables unless I manage 5k while Jurgen is offline and manage to get a 5k going in that time. Afterwards I'd be banned. So of that's the problem - no, I'm not a part of it.

Is the site's the dwindling traffic the problem? I don't know but I would submit to you that the traffic in 2009 was much higher than it is today. What's changed since then? Members tournaments are cash cows and, oh yeah, the moderation has steadily been becoming more authoritarian and less by popular demand (as it should be). The community can police itself just fine without moderators ruining the monthly competition and banning innocents like cool g.

I don't mean to be overly dramatic but whatever problem you're thinking of is probably not one the community gives a shit about. Maybe if you're referring to the problem of the community actually holding its site advisors accountable for their actions I might be a part of the problem. Then again who is that a problem for ? Egoist moderators and their club or the community? I'd wager it's the former and in the best interest of the latter.

This "authoritarian" moderation was created out of neccesity by a player we all love and miss......DLK. For those that don't know the story it was DLK that inspired my 3 paragraph request to Ryan to make me a moderator back in 2009. It wasn't long afterward that the need for moderation was again found neccesary with the exploits of a cube of tetris and again later by a Pokemon. There indeed have been others over these past 2-1/2 years. This form of moderation has arisen SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of people like you veta. So yes, you are a part of the problem, be it past or present.

Saying I am part of the problem when I don't play or if I do play it isn't for points is akin to saying Sam is part of the problem because he was in the cabal and also OTF'd his way to a gold medal and the podium many times.


Unless you're willing to say that I don't think you can argue I am part of any problem. As far as ONIX goes, I read the email monte sent to you and Ryan and what was going on was vastly exaggerated. Yes there was a scheme, but you obviously knew about it from early on Rob so we kept our shit straight (specifically because we were on thin ice) and didn't cheat. I'll maintain that to this day only didn't deserve a point reset and it was only monte's associations of ONIX to Adam that resulted in a reset. I'd say tetriscube probably deserved a reset/ban after the log in info was posted. Anyway, after ONIX I left for 11 months out of sheer frustration for actually playing a straight (pretty straight) month and getting slandered by monte and ultimately reset.

As far as that discussion we had 2 years ago Rob (where I said dice without scheming was boring) I've changed a bit then and my appreciation for the political and intellectual aspects of the game has grown (as demonstrated when I won my two golds under extreme scrutiny).

ONIX* didn't deserve a point reset

Not only

Rob,

you cannot say that an opinion is worthless just because it is the same as Veta. This is a weak argument (ie: earlier discussion about character assassination).

As well, please try to please do what you told me you would: Look at why Erk got banned!

I probably am among the oldest members of this game both in terms of age and playing it. I play this occasionally and for fun, hardly ever more than 200 games a month. I do have an alt that I use to work off frustration and make stupid moves on low tables when I'm pissed.

All this given, I still can't tell who of the "big 20" own which account. It is not possible to undo this knot for normal players.

The problem for kdice is, that 99% of the players do not have the slightest chance to ever get to top 25. This is killing the competition and the fun. I was sad when ELO was kicked, but resetting points each month turned out a good think, because you had a shot at a medal without playing for ages - in theory. Leveled tables are a nice thing also. You can stear your risk. If the levels are good right now might be discussed, but that's not the most important point.

The fact that is killing high tables is, that you go there (even me quite often, and, as I stated, I am imho among the long term addicts) and in turn 1 there is old friends, old fiends, personal issues - and you are lost inbetween. Either you become a tool of one of the groups for a time or you get ripped right away. For the average player going 5k he risks half of his "earnings" in one game that he has a 95% probability of being cheated in. Nobody does that. Rates at 2k are a bit better, but not a lot. Thus the majority stays at 500 and plays for fun. Are you surprised?

As favors, personal relations and alike can not be removed from any social system, the problem at 5k is not to be solved. Thus I propose a different solution: Remove any table above 500 (or 1k, this can be discussed). Do not take tourney-points into the race for medals (too much friendship there as well). You have a large number of players on the highest table and teamworking will be harder or more evident. You can't avoid sitting the same 9 persons at 2k/5k most of the month - if it happens to you at 500 it is hardly random.

My 0.02 Euro, and this personal debate between 2 or 3 persons (who can tell, it is more accounts involved, but seems less people) won't help a thing.

Veta you should stop saying I was part of the cabal and making spurious accusations about the legitimacy of my medals when trying to justifying your cheating on ONIX and after. Your claims are rather silly since you have little actual knowledge of the events you are trying to use as counter points to Rob's claim that you are a problem. It is especially asinine since your antics are very recent and everything you are accusing me of is ancient in comparison and long past relevant to the current state of KDice.

Wait. Fiero600 is permabanned?

Sitting on my mantle between DLK and theNiggler

i feel the same way as you Sam when Thrax mentions me in shit like #4. he can't get over the fact that i'm one of the best players on the site now. no favors, no vflags. period. i think that's more of a contribution to the website than him. all he does is regularly respond to veta's posts in which they take turns 'dissing' each other.