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so, its 10 years ago.......
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 11:00 AM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT
alot has happend since then, but I still remember being glued to the television that day.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 8:23 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT Maybe someone will chime in with some not so meager memories.
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Thraxle wrote
at 8:26 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT To which I would gladly pay respect and listen.
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superxchloe wrote
at 9:08 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT You DON'T have to hear about what I was doing. No one forced you to read about it. Freedom of speech, bud. I can say what I want. I can remember what I want. In NO WAY does my memory of the things I was doing on September 11, 2001 preclude or diminish my memory of the events of that day. I remember 90% of my classmates being pulled out of school and being scared out of my mind. I remember people not showing up for a week afterward, because their parents were scared because the school was 9 miles from an international airport. I remember people sharing their stories about how their dad works in the pentagon, but he was getting something from a snack machine and wasn't in his office where he would have died from the impact.
Skrum, you are being remarkably obtuse if you don't think the way each individual experienced 9/11 is valuable. This is not just a day for the first responders, the people who lost their lives, the people who lost family members and friends. This day doesn't BELONG to any of them. This is a day in history that changed the way the vast majority of Americans perceive the world. It is a day that changed the way we treat certain people (good and bad), the way we fly, and the way we think about our country, government, and military. This day belongs to everyone. I call BULLSHIT if you don't think that every person's experience is equally valuable. We were ALL affected by this tragedy. It hurt some more than others, yes, but that does NOT mean that my experience as a ten year old elementary school student is less valuable. If you don't care to hear about my experience then don't listen. Plain and simple. |
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Thraxle wrote
at 9:10 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT We agreed to disagree already sweetie. But I know you had to get that out of your system just like I did. It's all good... : )
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superxchloe wrote
at 9:41 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT haha I did. thanks for indulging me rob :P
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 9:49 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT my Idea was simple, the fact that I remember that day exactly makes a difference to how I think about the event. it was an important day in my life, and I will always remember that day. I also believe it is important to remember how it changed how we all view the world and espeially try to remember that we should not change. If we are fighting for the world the people that died that day remember, then we should not change that world in order to keep it.
when I wrote this post i thought long and hard about what I wanted to write. I could have written that we had an election in norway on the 10th of december, and it was the first time the right wing had actually really won an election in norway since 1929 (or so). we were all talking about that, and thinking and planning for the changes. But all of this fades away, I only remember this today (so vividly) because of the things that happend. I agree thraxle, this is a day to share and remember, this is a day that changed the world, it is the biggest event in most of our lives (at least us here). remembering what I did that day keeps the memory fresh and real. lets remember it and not repeat any of the mistakes. |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 10:38 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT Thrax and chloe: it's not what you said about not hearing airplanes when you usually did, etc. that set me off, because those were parts of the event's environment that you experienced directly, not something that you were told about.
It's anything people were doing just before they learned of the event that they want to talk about that I find annoying. I think there are some darker motives why people might want to bring that up but I won't go into details unless I am asked. I will get off my high horse. |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 10:46 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT Most of us weren't at the Towers or at the Pentagon, but we were somewhere and we remembering what we were doing that day puts the memory of the tragic events into the context of how it impacted our lives, it puts us into the event in a way that is unique to us. To you this process somehow diminishes the key events of the day?
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 10:51 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT Also one of the flights that was used was a flight my Mom had been on the previous week and another was one that she would have been on the next day or two.
Crazy day, I visited NYC in December 2001 the city was still so quiet and subdued and ground zero was quite the intense experience, I would liken it to the Holocaust museum in DC for pure emotional power and individuals stories that you could experience. |
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 10:57 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT my dad still has the plain ticket he had for one of the plane about 3 weeks after.
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