First; seeing as you will not reveal your identity. Where do you get this odd grudge you hold against me? Or are you always so passive aggressive with complete strangers.

Second; if spending is moot why even bring it up? I on the other hand do not think spending is moot. So if youd like to have a pertanent conversation about the numbers at least show your data; tell me how you got to 3 trill+ number for Obama admin / congress; explain what they added to the budget and what is in your numbers.

Third; yes I do agree with cutting back on the MIC; but if you think taxing the rich will get is out of this debt you are smoking something ridiculous; not only do the numbers not add up; but you are willfully ignorant of how jobs are created to begin with.

maybe he should have posted a wiki link at one point to make it even more obvious

Oh and btw; I still haven't forgotten your brilliant hypothesis that all libertarians / conservatives are racists. So please elaborate on that theory; because if you want to be taken seriously; you either need to apologize or show us the amazing reasoning that proves this. Until then; I have a hard time picturing you as any more then an adolecent troll attempting to partake in an adult conversation that is well beyond your comprehension.

already called him out on that

http://kdice.com/discussion/topics/44808014?page=33

but he denied it

he denied cheating on his 2 reset gold medals

I think it fits the pattern even more

and don't worry veta, you won't get -post if you stay away from trolling

Of course it is Veta. He is just doesn't want to prove that he was unable to leave after posting his long good bye thread. :p

-is

"finally in the third chart you don't have to wait to do any analysis of the stimulus package"

You do have to wait. To the right of the change of color to the Obama part of the chart does not show the economy improving, it only shows the dive in deceleration, which happens in every recession. The chart is not showing the level of jobs, it is showing the **slope** of the level of jobs. The BLS used to show the jobs level with a graph that showed the level of jobs. That was before Obama came in. Take a look at old BLS reports. Now, it shows the slope of the number of jobs because it creates the mistaken impression that the economy began to improve immediately after Obama took office. I wonder who was behind the change in the graph.

To illustrate,

here is the BLS report for March 2009:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_04032009.pdf