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jurgen wrote
at 3:44 PM, Thursday August 4, 2011 EDT
I am offering a contributor badge to Crazy Smurf for his help in exposing veta. The original plan from a while ago didn't involve veta in particular. He was just the first one to approach Smurf to pga with him on a really organized scale.

This one time badge does not mean that I will be awarding these contributor badges for everyone who will help me catch a cheater. I don't think it's entirely in the spirit of what a contributor badge should mean. Then again, so many have been far more questionable.

And I did give my word at one point because smurf was really struggling with having to act corruptible

So I am willing to take the heat for this if that's the case

Recognized on 3:00 PM, Thursday August 4, 2011 CDT by jurgen
I know this is controversial but you deserve it and I promised you weeks ago.

Thank you for sacrificing so much of your time to infiltrate in the cheater rings and provide me with valuable insights and evidence. I know that at times, it was hard for you to pretend to cheat so you could fit in. I think it's time we cleared your name so people won't think of you as the typical cheater

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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 10:02 AM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
Holy fuck some of you are thousands of times more pathetic than I thought. Someone tries to get you to stop acting like such a douchenozzle and you go and blow money trying to be more of a douchenozzle...

Fucking care less, seriously care fucking less.
Lucky Loser wrote
at 10:18 AM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
i dont see how im wrong still

also, then* not than

"I never gave smurf a cheat for free card. If I had caught him with someone else, "

i never said you did with someone else im saying you did with veta


also @ sam the main thing i care about is being called wrong here honestly

also you admitted to smurt pgaing with fishy and also struggling with acting corruptible.

you also admitted i was right about letting him pga with veta hurt others.



the only way i see you justifying it is as if you knew veta would do this twitter thing from the start, which you didn't.
Lucky Loser wrote
at 10:23 AM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
i also couldn't help but notice all of smurfs alts were banned and im pretty sure there was a reason for all those bans unless you didnt see those also. in either case saying smurf is completely innocent here is an understatement.
jurgen wrote
at 12:37 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
I had to ban smurf's alts or he would look suspicious as the mole and the operation was not finished on the 24th. The funny thing is , smurf was the person veta suspected the least of being the mole.

But I still have to unban some of smurfs alts he didn't use to cheat. I'll do it next time I log in. Corudroid and sureshot were shared with people like RND so these will stay banned.

I am not saying Smurf is a saint since he otf's just as much as Gurgi. Then again, if I have to ban smurf for that, I might as well ban Gurgi.

And you didn't read my words correctly. I said I saw fishy play from him and warned him for it. It was not pga, not even otf, not sharing, not proxying. But I am not going to tell you what. It's irrelevant since I know , he knows and I will ban him if I see it a second time.

I respect that you think this method is wrong. I give full immunity for what smurf did with veta in July. That will not mean that people can come to me and say, hey I cheated all month with player X, ban him and can I get a full pardon now? There might be things to be negotiated but that's a totally different thing.

The smart thing for everyone would be not to pga so you don't risk getting caught or you don't have to worry about a mole.
Lucky Loser wrote
at 12:49 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
sounds like you're protecting a cheater still to me and then comparing that cheater to me.

so fuck you
I_Hate_RND wrote
at 12:49 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
LOL this whole situation is fucked up the sooner everyone quits posting about it the sooner everyone will move on imo.

also juggles where are you?
Lucky Loser wrote
at 12:52 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
I know that at times, it was hard for you to pretend to cheat so you could fit in. I think it's time we cleared your name so people won't think of you as the typical cheater

-I am not saying Smurf is a saint

-Corudroid and sureshot were shared with people like RND so these will stay banned.

-I know that at times, it was hard for you to pretend to cheat so you could fit in. I think it's time we cleared your name so people won't think of you as the typical cheater

-I am not saying Smurf is a saint

-Corudroid and sureshot were shared with people like RND so these will stay banned... I will ban him if I see it a second time.

-But I still have to unban some of smurfs alts he didn't use to cheat.

^ agreeing that smurf did/does cheat

Lucky Loser wrote
at 12:52 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
and then you change your entire story and says he just otfs
I_Hate_RND wrote
at 12:53 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
Gurgi does have a point imo
Lucky Loser wrote
at 12:53 PM, Friday August 5, 2011 EDT
'I respect that you think this method is wrong.'

you shoulda just said that in post 1 and ended it imo
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