Hey Gurgi, remeber when jurgen banned me and all my accounts -play for posting a pic of dasfury calling me a "dumbfuck"?

lolz

He coulda just been like, "hey are you being serious?"

I woulda said "not at all, cool your jets bro. its kinda funny hahaha."

Smurf, much love <3

fucj youself jurgen, i didnt cheat all all with smurf

That's true... trendz rather begs for points or performs scary piggy dances...

gurgi, this time you are way off and now I think your first good call was justa lucky guess

* I only banned when I had enough evidence of clear pga on Kdice games, I didn't want to ban on behind the scenes evidence only

* I let it continue a few days longer because I know veta always has some occasional ties with pga people besides his usual crew and I was trying to catch those too. So yeah, in a way, letting things continue longer than I could was a disadvantage to some pople who got stolen extra points. I do apologize to those people but I looked at the situation and I thought it was justified to wait until I had all the evidence I needed. It's not difficult to see the logic in that but you have to "want" to do that and not just whine about letting a cheater play a few days extra.

* I never gave smurf a cheat for free card. If I had caught him with someone else, I would have banned that independently of the project. The deal was to warn me when someone contacted him to pga. I haven't seen enough evidence of him pga ing with kostur. In fact I did warn him once for fishy play, I'm sure he remembers. So if I catch smurf now, he will be punished like I would punish anyone else.

* veta only knew there was a snitch they day I told him in a private chat. He can claim what he want. He only mentioned to the group members after that (yes, smurf sent me most of chatlogs). I also told I had info from multiple people, which was true. Everybody seems to wanna talk about veta, it's funny how loved he is. But anyway, almost everyone from the group talked to me at one point. Hey, I even have RND on my fb friends ;P. So the fact that everyone was still included in the pga and the talks shows that veta had no clue as to who it was. He HAD to keep everyone on board.

* veta panicked at one point when he gave his twitter account list to RND while he didnt have RNDs script yet. He was affraid for a backstab. Those were funny reads.

* they spent close to a $100 I think. It was $20-25 for 1000 twitters and $60 for that program to make them yourself right? Sure you got some money back for the unused accounts but this isn't cheating for fun anymore, or trying out what you can get away with. This is serious business and even with all the money in the world, I would not spend a dollar, buying something to cheat. I can still understand simon's choice a bit to spend money. For him I know it was mainly for the thrill, he had no gold medal to gain.

* trendz indeed never got caught, nor did mattz. I don't know for sure if veta managed to convince Chase to help or not in case they needed to do the manual referring boosts. Veta was scared the script wouldnt be ready in time or , for a while, was affraid RND would steal his thunder. so he had his backup plan of still doing this manually. so he contacted extra people to have a bigger boost crew. Trendz and mattz agreed for sure. Since that operation never happened or we couldn't catch it, I can't ban. So yeah trendz, you ALMOST got caught. So be happy Ryan didn't follow my entire plan

I think an operation like this will not be happening a lot. I certainly didn't and will never use it to target one cheater in particular. I can only ask someone to appear available and see who bites the bait. But even that is a bit unethical maybe. I will let it rest for a while. Who knows , one day. Ryan never mentioned it was a bad though. I know pga will always be hard to catch and I don't want to catch them all. Cheaters can always hide behind the fact of otf or "good" silent truces etc. With this questionable method, I got more than I needed to prove it.

With the pga that I saw on the 23rd or 24th, I had enough evidence to ban them anyway, regardless of the infiltration. But the spy info sure helped having all the info about the boost project. It also helped me convince Ryan to spend the last 2 hours of the month watching and modding Kdice. That alone made it worth it.

So this case is almost closed. I am leaving a few things out. Maybe veta will post his own "how it all went" moment of glory. I might add some things then... or not, it's time we start forgetting about veta

forget about whom?

lol ^^

Wait, you have to pay for twitter accounts?

Veta found a guy who sold 1000 random accounts. You can make them for free but if you want 100s, it takes a lot of time. I have a chatlog where Veta says it took him FIVE hours to make 40 lol. I can fully understand him in being time efficiënt. So it costs like $20-25 for 1000 on the black market. Simon bought a program for like $60 that generates them randomly too. But I'll let Simon confirm that if he wants.

P.S. veta, I have your email exchanges with that guy. Since I think this is just a Kdice problem that got a bit out of control, I won't be sending it to the twitter legal services OK. And this was not a threat like "watch out or else..." just giving you my word it ended at the permaban.