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My summary (and the reasons for my discontent) of Obama's Presidency
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greekboi wrote
at 7:45 PM, Wednesday May 18, 2011 EDT
Can someone PLEASE tell me what good Obama has done for this country since the start of his Presidency? You can write an essay or list bullets, either way is fine. I'm not sure you will be needing more than a sentence though.
Without further ado, here's my summary of Obama's Presidency (in no particular order of importance or chronology) : -he's shown a lack of convictions/decisiveness (very diplomatically stated) that has been displayed through his failure to implement any of the changes he advocated in his campaign that made him such an attractive candidate -->his health care reform is good in theory, but it is constitutionally offensive, and it won't work without tort reform (did i mention the bill was over 2000 pages long and didn't even begin to explain how the program would be implemented?) -->he did not close Guantanamo Bay, nor did he investigate if any human rights abuses occurred during GWB's term -->he did NOT end American involvement in the ongoing wars in the Middle East -->he bombed Gaddafi's personal dwelling (where his family lives) -->he dropped immigration reform -->he dumped his energy policy -->he is now caving in to the demands for increased oil drilling and less regulations, which is not only something that Liberals have historically been opposed to, but also can potentially endanger Americans while NOT dropping gasoline prices at all -->he announced a new national policy this week in which he promises to reduce drug use by focusing on prevention and treatment YET the $10 BILLION of spending on interdiction and law enforcement out of his $15.5 BILLION dollar drug-control budget is a record high in terms of dollars and percentage -->he showed an inability to react quickly to a major crisis - the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico - yet the media coverage left him relatively unscathed (which is very interesting considering the amount of blame placed on Bush for the lack of cohesiveness surrounding Katrina) -->he used the aforementioned major crisis to promote green energy (instead of cleaning it up, lol) -->he created an "economic stimulus" plan (not to be confused with President Bush's "bailout") that he said would not allow unemployment to exceed 8%, although last month it reached 9% (A HISTORIC HIGH) The only thing clear about Obama's agenda is his vision of increasing entitlement program benefits and paying for it through increased taxation of those providing the most value to society (the high income earners) and over-taxing corporations. This is a great policy, if you support socialism. |
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deadcode wrote
at 4:35 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT Here is a little for both sides:
Ron Paul vs Michael Moore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLjni29lw8&feature=related Ron Paul vs Hannity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh2sBKpLxpQ&feature=related |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 4:36 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT Do people really think Obama is socialist? Like looking at his record in the context of the last 100 years I might say he's conservative.
Anyone who actually thinks obama is socialist or leans towards socialism is a dummy. |
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deadcode wrote
at 4:37 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT Btw; Lol at Colmes; poor guy.
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 4:53 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT @deadcode
If the federal government isn't going to be in charge of education are you comfortable with states removing evolution from the curriculum? The federal government should set the minimum standard for what should be in the curriculum as it does society good to have at least the same baseline for expected knowledge. If states want to mandate more intensive curriculum they should, but the board of education should have some over-site to ensure that any controversial or divisive issues that lack solid foundations are taught carefully. Ron Paul has some good ideas but he will never have a serious chance. I also disapprove of many of his social thoughts and doubt him when he says he wouldn't try to legislate his social issues since he has tried in the past. Also I don't agree we should just take our ball and go home when it comes to US forces abroad. |
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deadcode wrote
at 5:01 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT SAM: "If the federal government isn't going to be in charge of education are you comfortable with states removing evolution from the curriculum?"
Once again; I'm not interested in government educating children; regardless of whether its federal or states. I believe parents have the right to choose the upbringing of their children including the education. If they want to go to a catholic school they can; if they want to go to secular school they can. SAM: "Ron Paul has some good ideas but he will never have a serious chance. I also disapprove of many of his social thoughts and doubt him when he says he wouldn't try to legislate his social issues since he has tried in the past." He may or may not have a serious chance; who knows; American politics is very dynamic; one day its Trump; next day it's someone else. As for your comment on Ron Paul violating his principles; please be specific; I'm not aware of anything he has done that violates his principles. Please elaborate. |
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greekboi wrote
at 5:03 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT he's obviously not a pure socialist but he leans in that direction...think Obamacare you "dummy"
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 5:11 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT I don't believe or agree with his argument against abortion as a libertarian principle is the only issue of the top of my head I can say, there are some others but I don't have the inclination to research it until he is a serious candidate for a position I would have a vote on.
Back to education, parents can home school their kids already. We do not need to remove a system for everyone else that benefits everyone just to save some money and risk going back to the dark ages. Education and knowledge is the fuel of progress. Yes the system needs an overhaul, but I would prefer to only have to deal with stupid people that are naturally stupid, without having kids that were born in part of the country that institutionalizes stupidity. |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 5:12 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT @greek
Obamacare mandates that you have to buy insurance and creates subsidies for lower income incomes. It is mandated capitalism. If anything it is borderline fascist not socialist. |
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deadcode wrote
at 5:15 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT To be fair; Ron Paul hasn't called for a ban on abortions. Personally he doesn't like abortions; considering his job is delivering babies.
But he has frequently voted to stop the federal government from deciding on the issue (whether for or against) because constitutionally it is an issue for the states. |
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deadcode wrote
at 5:19 PM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT SAM: "Back to education, parents can home school their kids already. We do not need to remove a system for everyone else that benefits everyone just to save some money and risk going back to the dark ages. Education and knowledge is the fuel of progress. Yes the system needs an overhaul, but I would prefer to only have to deal with stupid people that are naturally stupid, without having kids that were born in part of the country that institutionalizes stupidity. "
If you haven't noticed; we are going back to the dark ages (in education). I'm not proposing something radical; this system has worked in many states and in many countries. It is our public education system that is the radical experiment. Each year; newly elected politicians can change the curriculum of what your children learn. This is applied across the board at every public school; so basically everyone either sinks or swims together. Not a lot of swimming going on; as is clear by our lowering standards and lowering scores against other nations. |