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Canadian Healthcare
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Thraxle wrote
at 2:01 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT
Baby Joseph?
"Death Panel"? Welcome to the U.S., we'll care for you here. Sup? |
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reminder wrote
at 4:36 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT Soo... if I understood well, a vegetable-state, brain-dead baby was "saved" from death (which will come soon anyway) by good American doctors who took it from evil Canadians?
I do know my opinion is quite extreme on health matters, but jesus, this looks like a PR campaign where money is spent not to make any significant change, but to improve someone's ratings. Way to blow money americans. I've donated ~$20 bucks to African kids and I really feel that I made a greater difference than those "hard working american doctors". Sadly, that didn't get me any popularity... I guess our aims are different. |
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boogybytes wrote
at 4:39 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT this was just some publicity stunt by some american nutjob prolife group. they really shouldn't have allowed that wacko "priest" into canada at all. sickening.
also can you american conservatives please stop discussing canada in any way? ty in advance! |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 4:48 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT I like Canada.
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reminder wrote
at 4:54 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT Everyone does, skrum, except the Americans.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 4:59 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT I am an American.
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reminder wrote
at 5:05 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT Guess you didn't get your share of brainwashing then.
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Marius_1987 wrote
at 7:18 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT Skrum, if a person doesn't have health insurance, but decides to risk his own health to save others, and gets health problems as a result of this, do you really think he should get worse treatment than lets say a person who inherrited millions from his parents and has no problem paying for the best insurance, who gets lung cancer after smoking 20 a day all his life?
Thats obviously an extreme expample, and I have no trouble admitting that I don't have detailed knowledge of how your health system works, but I really struggle to see why people would prefer anything but universal health care. If nothing else, then simply based on morals its the right solution. |
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montecarlo wrote
at 8:58 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT i think the fears that 'conservative' americans have about universal healthcare is:
1) longer waiting lines. the richer ppl would rather pay more money for private healthcare if it means they can jump to the front of the line. 2) ppl take advantage of the system, i.e. oxycodone junkies. these are two broad generalizations/fears. im not defending them, but i can understand how those fears exist. and a large part of american lore is the idea that you get rewarded for hard work. if you work hard, you can afford better health coverage than someone who isnt as successful. i think there is a sector of the rich that are service-minded, and donate decent percentages of their income to people who genuinely need health coverage, but cannot afford it. they choose to be kind to the afflicted, but not to the addicted. |
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Cal Ripken wrote
at 9:43 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT "a large part of american lore is the idea that you get rewarded for hard work. if you work hard, you can afford better health coverage than someone who isnt as successful. "
but no one actually thinks this is the case, right? I mean really... |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 9:59 PM, Tuesday March 15, 2011 EDT I think the fears that "liberal" Americans have about universal healthcare is that if they don't show the proper political attitude about healthcare (or the proper political attitude about everything else) that they will be denied access to the health care that will be available only to the elite and will have to make do with the healthcare available to everyone else, which might even be free, but will be of appalling quality.
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