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Question to conservatives
Boner Oiler wrote
at 3:00 PM, Wednesday March 2, 2011 EST
Would you cut spending even if it meant losing a serious amount of jobs?

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Boner Oiler wrote
at 7:53 PM, Wednesday March 2, 2011 EST
Yeah monte, I'm not trying to castigate you or anything I just wanted to lay out what the fact are and my attitude. You and I both know nobody in Washington is thinking "hey I wonder if this is in accordance with Joe Blow's values" they're either thinking in terms of their own self interest and by extension their party's self interest or they're thinking about their constituents and by extension the nation's self interest.

That's what I was getting at, and if it isn't obvious I feel like a certain political party has time after time in recent history expressed an interest in the former.
skrumgaer wrote
at 7:53 PM, Wednesday March 2, 2011 EST
Boner:

I don't know what the fairness rule did, but I am OK with the current setup.
Boner Oiler wrote
at 7:57 PM, Wednesday March 2, 2011 EST
Skrum: The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, honest, equitable and balanced. The 1949 Commission Report served as the foundation for the Fairness Doctrine since it had previously established two more forms of regulation onto broadcasters. These two duties were to provide adequate coverage to public issues and that coverage must be fair in reflecting opposing views.


TL;DR: you need to be fair and honest when evaluating public issues or else you get fined... meaning you could not spin things to suit your agenda (be it conservative or liberal)

Canada still has something like that in effect and it's the reason the Canadian counterpart of News Corp (Sun TV) has yet to launch. There was a big move to try and get it repealed recently but the opposition managed to hold their own. It has nothing to do with partisanship, but rather it was in place to keep the media honest.
panzer wrote
at 8:42 PM, Wednesday March 2, 2011 EST
believe me.

its all bullshit

don't dwell on it

just make money and take care of your wife and kids
Tourney Champ wrote
at 12:26 AM, Thursday March 3, 2011 EST
http://seekingalpha.com/article/251102-fed-holdings-of-u-s-treasuries-surpass-china-s

The Russian Revolution was not cool, it was nuts.
Hyperinflation in Germany was not cool, it fucking sucked.

I dont think the music has stopped playing in the world of finance yet, but there is a shift away from the dollar and the consequences are yet unknown.

China revaluing the Yuan is crucial to a new balance. Ironically we are catapulting the communist country forward in order to save ourselves from our own corruption.

I hope for the best in the future. Socialism isnt where i want future that to be.
Tourney Champ wrote
at 12:30 AM, Thursday March 3, 2011 EST
check these out BO in response to your media criticism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

Media History



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

Eddy Bernays was a trip, "The Father of Public Relations"
skrumgaer wrote
at 1:50 AM, Thursday March 3, 2011 EST
Boner:

I don't see why a holder of a broadcast license should have an affirmative duty to do anything, whether presenting anything controversial in the first place, or presenting more than one side.
Boner Oiler wrote
at 4:40 AM, Thursday March 3, 2011 EST
So what's your opinion about equal time rule then Skrum? Also, do you think it's okay for anyone on TV to do whatever they? That is to say TV should be completely unregulated?

Is it okay for a news organization to literally only further it's own agenda by lying and stretching the truth at the viewers' expense? There are reasons you can't claim things are untrue in other industries (advertising, medicine, etc) and it's to protect the nation's citizens. I guess you could argue from the advertiser's perspective or the snake oil peddler that they don't have an obligation to prove what they claim or tell the objective truth, but then again where would we be if this was the case?
Boner Oiler wrote
at 4:41 AM, Thursday March 3, 2011 EST
Also TC, I know what yellow journalism is, but I did find that Edward Bernays article interesting.
skrumgaer wrote
at 6:53 AM, Thursday March 3, 2011 EST
Boner:

You haven't thought out the implications of your own position. If we are to have equal time, then we have to listen to the snake oil salesmen too.
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