March 2009 49th 22.408◆ 26 764 +2,589 / -937 20.118◆ / 0◆ 8 54 % 63 : 37 49.2 % 46% 26% 7% 0% 11% 3% 3%

46% firsts including a medal.

minibiatch, u r a fucking whore and slut

thats pretty much topic related!

Not sure to who I should reply here...

@shev:
No, I don't think you cheated in April08. One reason is that I can't imagine that you cheat or scheme, for the fact that you don't like anyone well enough to cooperate with them for more than 2 games. You might have had your tools like sam has, but you are not a friendly player and I can't imagine that you have anyone's IM...
30% 1sts is actually the last number which I would consider as "borderline"... And I guess you also had some low table wins which contributed to that. Your stats that month were extremely good, but still far from ONIX' current stats (along with the 34% 1sts come only 4% 7ths)...

Now about that really dumb comparison with Sam's stats:

Sad enough that I need to comment on that, since experienced players should be smart enough to realise that stats that only contain 9 games, are not saying anything at all. Well, Sam's stats do tell me that he got very lucky when he played 5k tables, after he had bad luck at the 2k (Good and brave move from Sam though to play 5k after having had shit luck at the 2k). Hence his average of 50.3% luck. That was only one day though and only 9 games.
Really, you should be ashamed of yourself to compare stats based on 107 games with stats based on 9 games.
I can't express how dumb that was. But it was very dumb. Very! Especially for a player that is regularly boasting with the results of skrum's stat works. Remember how he never does the TAPL for people how have less than 35 games???
Why do I even have to mention this here?
Aynway...


The thing is that Chase is known as a cheater. I'm not saying that he is cheating all the time. And I'm not saying he's a bad person. He should actually get a + for making kdice funny and bringing up innovative ideas.

The reason why I posted this thread is this utmost high amount of hypocrisy among top players. I think nearly everyone accepts that there is lots of cheating at the 2k and 5k tables, let alone the Member tournaments.


So why do some people always try to pretend as if there's no cheating at all... Especially when we talk about a player like Chase, who likes to have a good laugh and who would do all kind of things to get it.


Some people come here to scheme and to see hoe other people scheme. Fair enough. But then stop pretending as if nothing you are so much better than the noobs you pwn.
After all: nothing will happen anyway... so you could as well admit it.
No big deal...

Yeah sorry for the typos and syntax mistakes there... I just noticed them but there's still no edit button... so meh

Who is sam?

sorry ive been away from the kdice forums for the last 24 hours.

my honest to god personal opinion on onix is that he is playing clean games. i have not seen anyone throw games to him yet. i have only played in like 10 games with him i would guess, and from my first-hand viewpoint, those 10 games were clean.

why can a new account get points so quick? you answered this yourself: because everyone knows that it is chase. if chase tried to do this without telling anyone that he was onix, then i give him a -300% chance of even getting top 10. the fact that we all know its chase means that we treat him as chase. yes, this means there is a certain amount of otf involved, but in my personal opinion (which could be way offbase) the entire top table crowd is a huge otf crowd. if you piss people off, they remember, so as has been said before by others, the entire place is one big circlejerk. if you dont know how to give handjobs up there, you wont succeed. and chase has been raised on handjobs since his dad taught him at age 6 when his hand was big enough to grab his dads cock.

does 100+ games with 34% 1sts look shady? perhaps. there is precedent though: nuflis in july 2008 had something like 300+ games with 30+% 1sts (i think it was 31 or 33 i forget). there was MASSIVE debate at the time about whether or not he was cheating to do that well. even i questioned nuf's integrity on the issue (sorry nuf). but basically i think its a combination of timing and being nice.

everyone saw nuf as a real nice dude, which he is. same thing with chase. he has pulled a lot of shit on this site (most of which i dont even know he was behind probably), but at the same time, the majority of people who interact with chase think he is a good guy. so they dont mind him farming when he farms, or whatever.

blargh, this will all devolve into that same goddamn argument of how otf is by-the-letter-of-the-law illegal and bannable, but reality will never reflect the ideal situation. srsly, weve all been around enough to remember all the times that this argument has come up, from when i went on a run on the last days of several months, and Ryan subsequently removed tons of points to not let me win, to nuflis not being allowed to win because of his insane percentages, to pat being forced to win even though most people hated him and were trying to pge him.

so, if the past means anything, theres about a 50/50 chance that Ryan himself will step in before this month is over and remove points from chase. i wouldnt put it past him. and i dont mean that in a Ryan-is-gay manner, i just mean it in a khistorical manner. its easy to question these stats, and easy to punish them when you are trying to make an example out of someone that otf is technically illegal.

but i still think its gay that the monthly winner is more determined by 1) giving $5, and 2) having exorbitant time to play. sure it should be a mix between time, skill, and $$$, but i think the skill side of things needs to be more weighted than it currently is.

but please moon, this post is reminding me of when you first heard of who i was, and immediately concluded that i was a douche, all because you heard all about me from leek. it wasnt until you actually got to know me that you realized leek just spouts bullshit because hes crazy. dont jump to conclusions about chase or about those who are trying to defend him. i already admitted there is a chance he is massively cheating behind my back, and that all i know is the sample of 10 games i have actually sat with him, and those 10 games were completely clean.

and when i say "neutral players" (sorry this is answering another thread), i refer to people who are consistently on the top tables that are not involved in any kind of faction. think: lager, shev, etc.... as far as otf-top tables go, they are the ones that truly determine who succeeds and who fails. if they dont like you, you will lose points. you might have a group of disciples who heap praises on you, but that group is probably only a few people, and largest competitor also has a group, but thats only a handful of people too. the critical part of the equation is what the 90% majority of those "neutral players" feels about you both. most of the time they respect both camps' lead players, but sometimes someone in one of the camps pisses them off so bad, that they will throw their support to the other camp. but mostly they just want points.

The fact that there is camps and that otf is not considered pge is laughable. :) This game is a bunch of manure.

Wow, two years later and Joe keeps writing amazingly long essays about kdice. Respect.