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Sick of people bitching about the flagging system
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fiero600 wrote
at 9:09 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT
Ok this is PROBABLY hand in hand with the 2007 post since i think those are the people whining the hardest but uh... LISTEN UP ALL WHINERS
The current flag system is in place because the other systems had flaws. LEARN-HOW-TO-ADAPT-TO-THIS-SYSTEM-OF-FLAGGING-AND-SCORING. Seriously guys, this is legit from all sides. Here's an example... say in round 5 or 6, there is a fairly dominant 1'st place, and a fairly obvious 2/3 fight.You are in either 2'nd or 3'rd place... sorta doesn't matter for this example. NOW WATCH HOW THIS WORKS. Say you have some random old school bitchy player.. lets name him player 'phoenix'. Player phoenix will try to old school 'silent truce' the other guy and hope he catches on.. which of course he wont since silent truce is a lost art. Next, the other guy will vflag since it will be round 7ish to the 1st place guy. Phoenix will stay silent for a minute and then 1'st place and the 2/3 guy will both attack him. Then he will begin to rant and bitch how gay the vflag was and how the other player was a pussy. By now, 4'th and 5'th will have converged on him, and he will get a fairly decently high dominant 5'th or 6th place and get knocked out while bitching. Lets plug another player that has actually adapted to the game into that same situation. For example sake lets name him dasfury. This player will immediately assess the situation and if it is before the vflag he will truce his other 2/3 opponent. He will in the process, attack only the smaller players, leaving his partner to fend off the stronger 1'st place. Then he will then from the dominant position, force his truce partner to flag and... TAH DAH! 1'ST PLACE!!!!! So what if the vflag has already occurred? NOT A PROBLEM FOR A PRO! Lets just assume that this player isn't phazed by the chat pwning and refuses to take down his flag for a promise of '1st place' that will eventually be taken back on the basis of something to the tune of 'you cut me off' or 'someone lagged out' or something to that tune. This player can say something like "you're flagging 2nd right? let me fight. Yo 1'st place guy let me fight these other people." Then while dasfury kills the other people, he takes the top position and eventually kills the 1st place as he didn't explicitly flag to him. Oh and if you're wondering... in the chance that 1st place attacks him to stay in the dominant role, dasfury would just convince the guy that vflagged that 1'st place is backstabbing or farming, and the vflag would help him out.... I dont know how many times ive watched good players win like this... it seems so obvious of strategy but the old school whiners just dont seem to get it. They see vflags as pussy flags and pga schemes instead of just another tool for strategy. So heres to you dasfury type players... thank you for pwning the old style and new style with little to no whining. And FFS guys... if you learn ONE thing from das its gotta be this... ADAPT |
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Phoenix37 wrote
at 10:30 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT And I do occasionally whine, that much is true.
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Phoenix37 wrote
at 10:30 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT In conclusion, Fiero is a retard.
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Thraxle wrote
at 10:33 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT "So instead of supporting the easy argument that Nix is a whinner, which no offense he has been since elo okay pause for a tangent whinning has been part of the game forever it used to be an effective way to mitigate losses but wouldn't get you much traction is gaining points now it is an easy way to rake points and move up the boards many old school players whine occaisionaly but believe that you don't want to do it too much or be like the boy that cried wolf unfortunetly it seems pople are more open to whinning being an acceptable long term strategy, okay tagent over back to fiero being dumb."
114 words - 2 commas - 1 period fuck sam, that shit was hard to read |
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THE NIGGLER wrote
at 10:43 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT honestly fiero, yeah you can take advantage of the vflagging system, and you do it as well as anyone else on this site, and so can i... but you cant tell me with a straight face that this type of playing is actually enjoyable? i mean if youre in the business of gathering rhombii in the most niggardly way possible, vflagging and complaining is the best way to do that in the current system.
the reason the old players are complaining isnt because they cannot play in this new style of play (see Hat's 1st), the main reason theyre complaining is because the game that the version of the game that they're used to playing favored reading a board and strategy, as opposed to the current system which rewards complaining and cowardice. |
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THE NIGGLER wrote
at 10:45 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT holy shit that last paragraph is utter gibberish, allow me to fix it
the reason the old players are complaining isnt because they cannot play in this new style of play (see Hat's 1st), the main reason theyre complaining is because the version of the game that they're used to playing favored reading a board and strategy, as opposed to the current system which rewards complaining and cowardice. |
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THE NIGGLER wrote
at 10:45 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT in short: stop bitching about people bitching
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fiero600 wrote
at 11:02 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT hell yes i can say that its enjoyable and thats why we're all here and still play the game. And no, i didn't say that this is the ideal flagging or points system but it IS THE CURRENT FLAGGING AND POINTS SYSTEM... so all im saying is that people need to ADAPT TO THE SYSTEM OR GTFO AND STFU
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skrumgaer wrote
at 11:13 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT Flag is an intransitive verb. It doesn't take an object.
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fiero600 wrote
at 11:15 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT are you suggesting that Flag isn't also a noun skrum? huh?
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THE NIGGLER wrote
at 11:20 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT the way the flagging system is now would work great for tournies, not so much for the regular game
i cant say i really i remember the old flagging system too much (was kinda noobish back then, didnt really notice) but i can honestly say this system sucks and can see why the oldfags choose NOT to adapt or why they begrudgingly play and complain |
