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"Tourney Strat" or game to game favor?
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kevin143 wrote
at 4:00 AM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT
3 people left in today's Members Night tournament, myself, fiero600, and minibiatch. Fiero decided to eliminate me from the tournament, as long as minibiatch lagged out from the NEXT game, to give Fiero the point lead he would have had if he would have killed minibiach first. I was eliminated, and minibiatch flagged instantly at the start of the next game.
My understanding is that "tourney strats" like attacking the person with the highest points is fine. It's just not ok when you make an agreement to do something from one game to the next game -- even when it's just 2 or 3 people. Can I get a clarification here? Because if this is a legit strat, then I'll do it, but I thought it wasn't allowed. So is it a tourney strat or was this a game to game favor? From the rules: http://www.kdice.com/rules 1. Game-to-game favors or alliances are not allowed |
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integraI wrote
at 10:18 AM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT i'm also loving the fact that kam can have a shared account with minibiatch but all the other accounts are banned.
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kam|k2 wrote
at 10:41 AM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT Well, cause Ryan and Thrax can see whos playing the account, and its definetly not shared, cause theres only me - since months. And the original owner stopped playing this game (obviously his account as well)
I play it for the lolz,... just for fun. So whats the problem? mfg me |
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moondust wrote
at 11:30 AM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT I don't think that this was a game to game favour. Fiero made a clever move, that's all.
And there are actually two different varieties of tourney strat: 1) When there are still many players left, it's probably best to make sure that the player with the highest score gets nagative points, rather than a player who has only 25 pts left. So you will get more points and can afford one or two bad games afterwards. 2) When less than 8 players are left in a tournament, it definitely makes most sense to eliminate as many players as possible (especially those with only a few points) to make sure that you end up "in the money"/ "getting paid". #2 apparently is more useful in Member tournaments, because there are usually less people playing it. And that's what happened here. Very annoying for Kevin... but I guess kam was just a bit wittier than him. |
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kam|k2 wrote
at 11:59 AM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT "Fiero decided to eliminate me from the tournament"
We fought in the south for 2/3, remember? You lost, and i thought fiero kills you (your remaining island somewhere in the north). Fiero made a gay, but tricky, move, me forcing to accept his deal to go headsup instead of risking one more game where i definetly wouldnt have enough points to take another loss. Seriously, i dont get it. That i lagged out one round later had NOTHING to do with you. YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED IN A FIGHT FOR 2/3! It was about fucking me, to secure the headsup. If fiero would have killed me, even after i won the 2/3 fight, like backstabbing me for the lolz / points, i would have still lost the same amount of points. But with a disadvantage for him: backstabbing, no headsup, and for me as well: no headsup. Wtf is your problem? You lost the fight, and i got fucked... I repeat: YOU LOST the fight, an I got FUCKED... |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 12:10 PM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT Of course moondust king of tourny douchbaggery and general weak ass shit overall thinks this is legit.
Killing kevin over mini fine. Stipulating that mini must lag out next game is wrong. If you don't think so, you are a shitty weak ass fucking pathetic piece of shit. Hey moon and fiero fit that bill to a T. Get fucked and die shit heads. |
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integraI wrote
at 12:17 PM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT i don't give a shit either way just think there should be some consistency in how they moderate the site.
maybe that's asking for too much. |
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moondust wrote
at 12:29 PM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT "moondust king of tourny douchbaggery and general weak ass shit overall"
That title is pretty awesome. |
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montecarlo wrote
at 12:45 PM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT sam wins best rant of the year imo.
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fiero600 wrote
at 12:48 PM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT Thraxle let me throw an instance your way. If i killed mini and left 3 people in the tourney and mini and kevin said "lets 2v1 fiero for the rest of the tourney and try to take him down"... you would never put -play to them... certainly you would just call that tourney strat even though its a deal that extends beyond one game. I dont think you can mod the tournies like you mod regular tables.... there was no devious behaviour here... its kdice and its cut-throat... mini coulda just said 'screw you fiero' after i took out kevin and decide to beat me first round. The point of the game-to-game rule is to keep 2 players from screwing another player.. but in this case there were only 2 players left....
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 1:17 PM, Wednesday July 29, 2009 EDT STFU fiero people have been punished for doing exactly what you just said you dumb cunt. Stop playing lame fucking shitdice jesus.
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