u never play witout your PGA so i guess it was 3v2 or 3v3 !!!!

Thraxle.

Your comments reveal that you are steeped in the prevalent rumours that seem to be circulating and that you are not basing your opinions on evidence.

Also, your reference to previous games that DLK played in an attempt to justify your opinion about this particular issue is suggestive of irrational, opinionated and biased judgement.

As a mod you should judge each case on its own merits, otherwise you will find yourself unintentionally picking sides in the ever shifting behaviours of the social situation. Yes, sometimes DLK breaks the rules. But this does not preclude others from breaking the rules at other times.

I witnessed the event under debate and, while DLK is not always guilt-free, in this instance there was definately a viscious collusion on the part of the accused parties. On the merits of this particular case, without reference to historical incidences, reputation or rumour, the accused PGAers should be reprimanded.

I'm not disilluisoined about anything. I ignore "rumors" all the time. I've been a first hand witness to a lot of the wrongs DLK has done on KDice. Quite frankly, it was DLK's nonsense that pushed me towards asking Ryan to be a mod. The fact that I haven't completely banned him by now should be proof enough that I am not biased or emotional in my decisions.

By the way, if I based my decisions on rumors half the community would be banned by now.

The bottom line this time is that he announced a PGE against 3 seperate players and those 3 players chose to kill the guy that was specifically targeting them before anyone else. This isn't PGA on those 3 players parts, it's stupidity on DLK's part for maknig an announcement like that.

Thraxle this is the statement I take issue with:

"I've been a first hand witness to a lot of the wrongs DLK has done on KDice."

Because the interactions in social situations are ever shifting it is not appropriate to reference historical instances to colour ones opinion of a specific case.

I also have witnessed wrongs by DLK. I have witnessed wrongs by many people. I have witnessed DLK being reprimanded for his wrongs.

At the beginning of the game in question DLK simply observed that there were 3 people at the table who PGEd him. Those people then teamed up in a vicious pga that successfully dominated ALL OTHER players on the table (not just DLK). It was a particularly venomous and jeering disregard of the rules.

THAT statement is not the reason for no action being taken this time.

The story you are now telling is completely opposite from what DLK said in the threads opening statement. DLK states "they all allied together to counter my PGE". According to the "victim" in this circumstance, DLK was the one doing the PGEing, not the other way around as you are stating Bammbi.

My decision is unbiased and based entirely on the facts that have been presented. The statement you are making is completely contrary to the original thought from DLK.

It was DLK announcing PGE against 3 players, not 3 players announcing PGE against DLK.

Though Thraxle is right, thats how it is presented in the beginning. What nobody has discussed was what was discussed before this game.

I was sitting at the table, waiting for a certain color, and The accused PGA'ers were discussing how if DLK sat there with them, they would all target them. (This was before both BAMMBI and DLK sat down at the table)

This is ending up as one big pissing contest with conflicting stories, so this will be my last comment in this thread.

I'm obviously not going to moderate anyone based off any of the information in this thread. My only advice, which won't be taken seriously by the person I want to take it seriously, is to stop making the game play so personal. Just because someone attacks you, or kills you, doesn't make them a douchebag. Just because someone forms a truce doesn't make them PGA.

No matter how these events went down, the bottom line is that DLK sat down with 3 people he personally wanted to PGE and those 3 players chose to kill their PGE before anyone else. If DLK doesn't want situations like this to occur, he should quit marking every player on the entire site as his PGE.

Simply playing here for 2 years doesn't mean you automatically have a couple hundred PGE's. I've been playing here for 19 months and I can't name a single player that I specifically target when I sit down with them, and that includes DLK (even though I've been on his perma PGE-list before). I can't think of one single reason as to why these 3 players would have hit each other when they know that DLK, their PGE, is definitely going to hit them as well. It would be stupid not to go after the guy that you know is coming after you. It isn't PGA, it really isn't even PGE, it's simply smart play. Attack the player that you outright KNOW is going to target you. To do otherwise would be stupid.

That being said, I don't condone mass PGE against a single player, but if DLK continues to add player after player to his never ending perma PGE list, I don't see how I can control those players from reciprocating the sentiment.

Thrax

In reference to your refutation:

Would you consider it possible that pge's can be two way affairs?

Also, there was no in-game reference to the blatant truce that the three perpetrators made against all other players at the table. A three-way pga should be reprimanded.

In reference to your impolite final post:

Again it is vague conjecture sprinkled profusely with historical references and is certainly opinionated. You make no attempt to broach the issue at hand (the 3-way pga) and instead wax lyrical on the reputation of a player who is not (in this case) the accused.

If that is your final word on a blatant 3-way pga, then rather than being an impartial moderator and a boon to the k-dice community, you have become a catalyst for wrong-doing obliviously influenced by the roiling currents of opinion, gossip, emotion and collusion.

countering a fake pga is a legit strategy that is awesome to use, especially when the ones doing the countering are really the ones that are pga.

works every time.

I find it amusing that DLK has posted in support of himself. Batallion is a known DLK alt, which he created when he was banned earlier this month. I also find it amusing that he posts anything having to do with claims of other people being PGA. Furthermore, it is sidesplittingly funny for Bammbi to attempt to impersonate an objective commentator when he is one of DLK's most active PGA partners.

For the most part, I do not engage in PGE, since everyone has occasional bouts of assholedness. However, for those that choose to live in a constant state of cranial rectumitis, the community at large should chastise them vigorously. It would be nice if the administration would choose to enforce Ryan's stated policy of banning habitual offenders, but that appears to be faint hope. DLK, Bammbi, et al., have chosen to maintain a policy of constant PGA and so should be subjected to a policy of perpetual PGE.