ryan dont fall for these tricks. please. if monte becomes a mod, kdice will die...you might as well put me in charge. there are no reformed kdicers...they just find new ways to manipulate...and ofc with all my statements, accept them as being generalized.

@Unlucky, your list is flawed. I won't make the judgement about you personaly, as I do think you a smarter then that.

But Cleo? I mean really? Cleo?

/OFF TOPIC

Johnson, stop being edgy, it isn't funny.

Don't play kdice like it is a circle jerk, been saying that for months.

I am surprised to say it, but I actually read all 81 previous posts in this thread. Lots of repetition, lots of acrimony and very little progress. I think that this thread is an illustration what you can expect to happen in terms of the gameplay itself. IE: nothing

As long as the basic format of the game remains, the playing styles will not change. The only way that you are going to be able to eliminate favoritism from game to game is to eliminate player identities and impair the ability of people to use external chat tools to communicate. You will have to eliminate the chatbox, remove any map names/numbers and assign players to maps randomly as occurs in the tourneys.

As long as people know who the other players are, you are going to have both PGA and PGE. None of the commentary has addressed the morality of the latter, but it is also an integral part of the game. If it is wrong to favor someone because of past performance, then it is certainly also wrong to target someone on the same basis. However, I don't think that is true. If someone has been an ass in a previous game, I see absolutely nothing wrong in punishing them in the next game. By extension, I have no problem with the concept of playing nicely and rewarding someone who was kind to you in a prior game.

Ryan, I understand your goal here, but I seriously doubt the likelihood of your success in achieving it. And, to be honest, I am not sure that I agree that elimination of game to game favoritism (or hostility) is a desirable goal. This is a SOCIAL game and it is the social interactions that make it enjoyable. If you want to have purely objective player behavior from game to game, you will have to eliminate the social aspect.

I'd disagree with you on that one Bone Roller. PGA and PGE are quite different. PGA, unlike PGE, unfairly decreases the chances of other people (that are unaware of the previous games dealings) to win. PGE increases them.

Congrats bone-roller that comment made me chuckle. I particularly liked:

1) if PGA is bad, then PGE is bad
2) PGE is not bad, therefore PGA is not bad.

Also the quote "Lots of repetition, lots of acrimony and very little progress" was an excellent lead-in.

how am i trying to be edgy...im trying to avoid my johnsonisms and im trying to be sincere. there's a concept. sam as usual your words dont match your actions. i just saw you and monte pgaing and cheating(circle jerking) so hard in the tournament that it was enough to make you sick. and he wants to be a mod. puhlease. you two are so full of it, and have yet to prove how your playing style is any different than most cheaters. But even I wouldn't have ever done what you did in that tourney. i wish ryan was there to see it. it really looked bad, and it just exemplifies exactly what this post is abt. congratulations

johnson this is a case in point that you see what you want to see. if we had a goddamn replay of that game, sam and i would be justified. ill post the exact turn-for-turn justification soon.

Nice job reseting Mona's and Murti's score's another bunch of cheats that don't deserve the points from the mtt

If they got reset would 3-5 get the points instead?

thats something i mentioned early in the forum, and i think thats what should happen the points should go to 4th and 5th place if the players above cheat and lose the points anyone agree?