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People of ELO, my apologies, but!
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Johnson213 wrote
at 12:37 PM, Friday October 3, 2008 EDT
Before I start ranting, I'll establish how I can make a post such as this. Given the time I started playing this game, before the Johnson acct(april 07), and with alts included, Im pretty sure I've played this game more than 99% of kdicers. You may call me a truce whore, you may say I cheat...whatever, who cares. We all cheat. I understand and can play this game, I've experimented with different accts, different playing styles, etc.,etc. So I am a credible source, and I am just and justified in making this thread.
I respect ppl of the elo era, I myself am one of them...but it really bothers me when ppl of ELO treat the community of kdice like they are n00bs simply because they were not part of the craziness that apparently occured. SO THIS WILL BE LONG. I apologize!. In leu of wishbone's thread, I want to say that cabal ppl, old schoolers, etc, should step off their high horses. I ride on the high horse alone, sorry guys. :D Dont misinterpret this thread. Im not trying to sound pompous, holier than thou, etc, etc. My goal is simply to state the obvious. This game started in Dec 06., maybe a few months earlier. nevertheless, There are not any old schoolers...pretty much everyone that plays the game is new, since the game is relatively new. Further, if you ask anyone to name their top ten kdicers...not one 'old schooler' will name someone who started post elo. I guarantee it. Which is retarded considering how the game has changed so much since. There are new ppl that are great, and can play better than old schoolers. New ppl that understand the value of pga, socializing, etc., etc. and newbies who don't need a team to win first place. I respect ppl of the old time. But sometimes I think that they are extremely arrogant, and receive WAYYYYYYYY too much credit. Before I knew of a cabal...before my first game started I asked ppl already sitting if they wanted to work together. I knew the value of two heads before the game even started. After my first game, after receiving second, I stated "that worked well...do you wanna do it again?" And we did :P So the cabal didn't start pga...maybe you made it famous, I don't know. But I want to stress that kdice extends way further than old schoolers, cabalers, etc. Alt knocking - I was really bothered by the part of wishbone's thread that knocked alts. What is so wrong with it. My alts are the only escape I have. In my alt I don't have to worry about pga or pge. In my alt I can adopt a new identity and I can play without the pressures of succeeding. I can sit in 0 tables, etc., etc. I love wishbone , btw. Don't get me wrong. But I think it's another example of how the cabal, old schoolers, try to impress their beliefs on kdice, instead of adjusting and changing with the game. Knocking ppl who cheat - Like what qualifies monte to say that aiming after may is for scheming...and before May. But before then it wasnt for cheating. Who in their right mind doesn't want a break. It's human nature. If something is available to us we take it. Are we cheating by breathing the air that's available to us? I pga, I cheat. So what?! I am the manifestation of primitive human characteristics...sue me. Ban me, who cares. This is a freaking online game. Play it and stfu. you're not anything special because you started before others...so get off your high horses. Sorry gtg, boss coming, hope this is readable...and I love kdice. I love you! |
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--/*Superb1*\-- wrote
at 2:19 AM, Sunday October 5, 2008 EDT I agree Shev, too bad YOU spoke a word. I am trully sorry if you dont have 1) no joy in your life 2) furthermore, no life.
I hope you can fix these things... |
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Shevar wrote
at 3:57 AM, Sunday October 5, 2008 EDT fixed ;)
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rifty wrote
at 8:27 AM, Sunday October 5, 2008 EDT If you have a multi player game where players can identify who they are playing against, you are bound to get bias in players actions towards others (either positive or negative).
Aren't you? ..and Christian Soldier...you're a funny guy. ;) |
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Johnson213 wrote
at 4:35 PM, Sunday October 5, 2008 EDT and before this goes any further...i just want to clarify something...this thread was intended to address the fact that "new schoolers" are not really referenced...and are yet to be respected as "good" kdicers even though the game is fairly new and there isn't really much that distinguishes good v bad playing...ok, this isn't true, but I think it fits :)
I am all about sorting through the past and recalling moments that made yesterday great. But yesterday is gone and all we have is TOday. Let's respect each other, regardless of k-age. |
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Awesomeness! wrote
at 5:07 PM, Sunday October 5, 2008 EDT and to think i used to think u were cool john...
might i suggest u stop forum posting...u're coming across as a bit of a...'wep' |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 11:59 AM, Monday October 6, 2008 EDT Whatever, man you are fucking delusional.
If you really refuse to roll your friends then you are a waste of a kdicer. Plenty of newer players are good, and yeah too often the older players wax poeticly about the good old days, which probaly weren't all the much better then now. Seriously Jr you think way to highly of yourself, fiero well you are obvioulsy a waste of elctrons and anyone that discounts what Grun said should go find another game. Sure knowing people can affect how you play, but you shouldn't rely on relationships formed previously to always work with them. Look, when I sit down with das_fury or wishbone I don't have and premeditated plan to truce them, I have no implicit or explicit aggreement to PGA them, but I do know that as the game progresses if I need a partner to win sure I will look to one of my buddies first. But I always go into a game trying to win and connect and roll accordingly. Most of these newer greats you speak of Jr. sit and expect the people they know to help them win from round 1, they don't try to win right of the bat and they don't play as a individual first. This is a sad development and has removed much of the fun at the higher tables. And to close, seriously dude you are not as cool as you think you are. |
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fiero600 wrote
at 12:25 PM, Monday October 6, 2008 EDT I disagree, Jr. is the man...and way cooler than he gets credit for.
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Johnson213 wrote
at 12:31 PM, Monday October 6, 2008 EDT sam, i think this is irrelevant to what the post is abt, and i never said i refuse to roll on friends.
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rifty wrote
at 1:00 PM, Monday October 6, 2008 EDT Wishbone..."This is where we met MadHat_Sam, ..... He was the first new addition to the cabal. Dasfury and I PGA’d him from about 1800 even all the way to 2k."
Madhat Sam..."Most of these newer greats you speak of Jr. sit and expect the people they know to help them win from round 1, they don't try to win right of the bat and they don't play as a individual first. This is a sad development and has removed much of the fun at the higher tables." From what Wishbone said, it doesnt seem to be a new development at all, I think you're just a little pissed that you've been out- caballed? |
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rifty wrote
at 1:12 PM, Monday October 6, 2008 EDT Above post aimed at Madhat, not Johnson..
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