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to Ryan, skrum, grun, Voh
montecarlo wrote
at 7:54 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
would one of yall please unban us so we can enjoy the last day of the month? none of us were pgaing, as skrum can attest.

in reality, here is my guess: voh quit a week ago, and has not been back since. fiero and friends wanted to get him 1st anyways as a tribute and have rigged everything to make sure he gets 1st (even to the point of banning every single threat!!). there is no way that Vohaul would agree to these tactics if he were present. i mean, come on, we all have played with voh for over a year, and we know he doesnt pull shit like this.

so, voh, please post in forums and explain the actions that your idiotic little friend has pulled. we understand this is not you doing this.

and to the people with mod powers, for the love of God, unban us so we can enjoy the last day. last days are crazy cus everyone fights for points and placement, and this seriously kills the game when half of the top players get banned because a corrupt mod wants to throw a month to his retired friend.

also, its funny how fiero only banned people whom he thought had a shot at getting to 85k+. does he really believe meagles that we would pga a person into 1st? srsly? i guess im not the most paranoid person in kdice any more.

wherever you are leek, i offer you a toast. because i know youd be enjoying this scene. :)

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fiero600 wrote
at 8:02 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
I didn't even ban the person in 3'rd place with one of the top winning percentages. The bannings had nothing to do with vohaul whatsoever.
rifty wrote
at 8:09 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
Personally, I think its good that fiero is actually doing some moderating.

I'd have a lot more sympathy with those who were banned today if any one of those players actually said one word against all the racially abusive crap that goes on here, which in my opinion is really unacceptable. But you dont say one word....cos it doesnt affect you personally.

So I'm gonna sit back and put myself in your shoes and think you're banning is alright too, cos it sure as hell doesnt affect me personally.






montecarlo wrote
at 8:12 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
rifty when the fake johnson complained in forums about quitting because of racist chat logs, i was the first to say sorry and thats unacceptable and immature.

you replied after me.

sorry dude.
rifty wrote
at 8:17 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
monte....I've complained a lot lately about the racism I've seen here,and all I've got for it is a lot of shit basically saying I'm a big nancy who should appreciate freedom of speech. Thats bollocks. Racism is unacceptable. So, whilst you might have said something,it was harldy loud and clear, cos the racist crap still goes on. Yesterdays racist player got banned from chatting for a few hours....jeez...thats a punishment...not!

So, while you dont care, and no one else cares, why should I care about you?

I actually like you, monte, but lets have support against this racist stuff ,yeah?
SprintTx wrote
at 8:21 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
I am going to say one thing to all of the people banned accept for maybe Nuflis. You all are the worst thing to ever come to kdice. Infact I beleive that this game would be a lot better off if you all remained banned. You all do what you please, and then when you get punished you find ways to worm your way out of it.

You can't even say that you all don't cheat. We all know you do, but before fiero no one ever did anything about it. Well Fiero I am going to say one thing to you.

Thank you
rifty wrote
at 8:25 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
I agree with sprint....thankyou fiero for showing some balls.

Now do something about the racism here too.
unlucky9999 wrote
at 10:49 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
Yeah Shevar, you're the worst thing that ever walked on kdice surface. Get out

(impersonating SPrint)
Cal Ripken wrote
at 11:03 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
Rifty, none of these guys were the ones posting attacks against your racism posts.
Are you mad because you didn't get enough support in your posts and that these top players ignored you? Well, then ignore the posts they make about their problems. The repeated posts you've been making (in seemingly every thread on a different topic) are both redundant and juvenile. If you don't care about what's going on, then there's no reason to say anything...
Tommy Two Finger wrote
at 11:06 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
I've seen complaints that people have been cheating because they are given first place in games. I don't agree with you montecarlo. I think Vohaul DOES condone this activity. The proof is right on the leaderboard:

Most Wins This Month
Vohaul: 169

I dont see anyone else in the top 10 on that list.
Grunvagr wrote
at 11:08 AM, Thursday July 31, 2008 EDT
I support Fiero's decision to take action.

He even IM'd me for advice on the situation and wanted to know what I thought, before taking any action.

While the individual mini-decisions made are always debatable about how fair they are, there is NO doubt in my mind that SOME action should have taken place. And for that I applaud Fiero for having the brass to address the cheating issue.

There are to be no pgas (or funny business) when it comes to funneling points towards another player to boost their score. End of story. And if nuflis had no idea this was happening, (and i'd be inclined to believe him, even), then he should be equally pissed off at those who tried to rig the games.

The length of the bans and such are minor details, I truly support Fiero for taking action and sending the message that rigging the months wont be tolerated. Fiero also wanted to JUST ban for a few days, and I advised him to ban for more, for 14 days. And I am one of the most lenient mods when it comes to setting punishments for breaking rules - but I deeply feel that pgas or any score-fixing is simply not cool and is one of the most pressing problems that needs to be handled.

I havent seen all the screenshots, but the scores alone were extremely suspicious. Ryan already chimed in and said he will alter the punishments to what he deems fair - but I think Fiero did a noble thing.

There's a mentality that kdice has pgas so you need to pga to win. Well you don't.

And it is illegal. I'm working on compiling a draft of an official game rules section to post on the page, but Ryan has said it numerous times that pgas and rigging games for points is not allowed.

Argue all you want about the details (who got banned / how long), but I can see no reason why anyone should disagree with actions being TAKEN. Fiero, in this case, tried to preserve the integrity of the game.

-Grun
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