Apparently kdice isn't a social game according to Brubaker, this just makes me think about what makes a great kdice player. I'd say more then 60% of their skill is in mastery of the social aspects of the game. other thoughts?

*Brubaker*: matt - you are taking a leaf from the 'best' players
bcmatteagles: what leaf is that
ThunderLizard: im in a learning mode
*Brubaker*: the 'best' players conned, conived and slimed their way to the top - that last game was a perfect example
bcmatteagles: brubaker you are a fool, the game is a social game
*Brubaker*: PLAY your OWN fucking GAME.
bcmatteagles: it involves turning players against each other and making truces
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bcmatteagles: if yo uthink otherwise go play dicewars
*Brubaker*: ah, I see
*Brubaker*: well, I disagree.
beepa: anyway, didnt want to be a "brainy" (?)
bcmatteagles: you disagree that it's a social game?
*Brubaker*: I think you can be good at this without the need for deception.
bcmatteagles: the whole thing is social the whole thing is deciding who attacks who and why
*Brubaker*: well now you've got a reason to attack me. tata.
bcmatteagles: that is why you will be mediocre at best and less then average most likely
*Brubaker*: 'mediocre.'
bcmatteagles: at best
*Brubaker*: mate I win games by tactical know-how
*Brubaker*: something you 'people' lost a long time ago
*Brubaker*: game tactics
*Brubaker*: not lame-ass politics
bcmatteagles: the truly great players like rnd, grun understand that it takes a combination of tactical expertise and social expertise
*Brubaker*: 'social expertise'
*Brubaker*: explain that to me.
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bcmatteagles: manipulating people to your favor and understanding when and how you can trust other players
*Brubaker*: set up a table with 6 robot players, and 2 'great' players - see who wins.
ThunderLizard: not too bad for killing myself
bcmatteagles: the game doesnt have robots, it's people
bcmatteagles: it's a social game

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*Brubaker*: no - the point is to play your own game and take pride in it - win, lose or draw.
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bcmatteagles: well i play to win
bcmatteagles: because it's a game in which you try to out play and outwit opponents
bcmatteagles: in order to win
*Brubaker*: outwit yes, cheat, canive and twist, no.
bcmatteagles: what do you mean cheat?
*Brubaker*: that is exactly why chess players are not allowed to speak to each other.
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tberkowsky: pink, want a truce?
bcmatteagles: is this game chess?
bcmatteagles: this is a social game
*Brubaker*: if this little box was removed, the top 50 would cease to be.
bcmatteagles: exactly, because it is social game - nitwit
*Brubaker*: you would see the truly 'great' players
bcmatteagles: you just proved my point
bcmatteagles: the fact is the box DOES exist