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a scoring tweak
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Ryan wrote
at 7:09 AM, Tuesday September 18, 2007 EDT
In an effort to reduce some of the gameplay changes from the previous scoring to the current scoring I've made a small tweak today.
The tweak makes point drain more constant so that you don't dramatically lose points later in the game. Instead of paying one ante per round you pay three antes per stage where a stage begins when someone is knocked out. You should notice now that at any stage you will now only lose points for a drop in position or a change in dom share. (vice versa for gaining). Thoughts? |
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SodaPop wrote
at 12:57 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT I dont really like it....
i can see games lasting for longer, and i cant farm dom anymore i vote against it |
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SodaPop wrote
at 1:35 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT If you desposit 3 points every "stage"
and you have only 1 territory.. then as soon as a person flags... you lose 3 points.. your reward for coming 6th not 7th.. is rewarded in negative 3 points.. change it back!! |
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JKD wrote
at 1:52 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT You guys should say the dom/rank breakdown, they're important. Only know it all has done this so we have one game's worth of stats for players 6th-1st. 6th had +0 dom, is it too easy to break even with dom for first three rounds or is that an exception?
Onto position, 6th had -7 and 5th had -5. The ante is 3? Is 5th likely to drop in dom or stay the same? Anyway, it looks like 5th is punished at least one point for outlasting 6th. That can be easily changed. To reply to know it all's question, with dominance worth about 50%, 1st position +13 and 2nd +6 it looks like it's designed for a dominant 2nd to do better than 1st. |
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skrumgaer wrote
at 5:38 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT Ryan's original post says "three antes per stage" which would suggest 6 points, not 3, since there are two pots. So for each game, a total of 6 x (6 + 5 + 4 + 3 + 2) or 120 points is paid in. In know-it-all's post bamm placed first and gained 12 points. Having paid out 36 points, his share of total points paid as ante is 42. Seems to fit will with a total ante of 120.
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skrumgaer wrote
at 6:34 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT Correction to last: the start of the game appears to be a "stage", else where would the 7th place finish loss of points come from? In which case the total amount paid in would be 162 points.
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Ryan wrote
at 8:08 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT I've been thinking of a refinement to this for the 5th-7th placement. The problem is that in typical games these positions are not dramatically different and likewise the points shouldn't be dramatically different. 7th should not get a lot less than 5th, but currently its a bit worse to be fifth than 7th, which is not ideal.
The refinement I was thinking of is to group 5th-7th as one stage with three times the ante. This would make 7th slightly worse than 5th. Then where will be an ante for 4th and 3rd, but not 2nd. The ante for 4th and 3rd will be worth it since it will be less than what the player has won from 5th-7th. I'm going to test this out a bit and get back to you. |
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These cards suck wrote
at 9:12 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT Might be my thoughts and my thoughts alone but you should make it so where even if you are last you still get 0 point or 1 point for playing... it makes the game a little more fun knowing that you not losing all the time...
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Big Jumblies wrote
at 9:24 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT I think the problem is 5th and 6th are staying around to fight because they think they have a shot @ winning. Keep in mind, maybe 5th or 6th DID end up winning but whoever got knocked down to 5th and 6th got the points for those positions.
In other words, people got penalized for sticking around to fight in the game, but ended up with 5th or 6th. |
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JKD wrote
at 9:39 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT "make it so where even if you are last you still get 0 point or 1 point for playing..."
Cool idea, but would that encourage players to join multiple games and then flag the ones where they don't have a winning start? |
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_\o/_ wrote
at 10:39 AM, Wednesday September 19, 2007 EDT i play kdice, so i'm getting a kick out of these replies.
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