While I find it very difficult to disagree with anything monte said there :), I will note that it was extra difficult to get back above 2000 this month.

The 300 point gap is overly difficult, and especially so because it's at the low tables where there's a steady flow of players ranked near 1500 and hardly any ranked in the high 1700s, average elo in most games there is probably near 1600.

I thought maybe adding 1600 tables and getting rid of the 15s would work well, anyone under 1600 can play only at unrated tables. As it is, there are plenty of players with 1600+ and even 1700+ ratings playing on unrateds.

You want me to ask permission to use your public stats as a point of reference?

Uh................??????

Ryan, thanks for chiming in. Looking forward to the changes. And thanks for ruining my free time with this game! :P

ok grandgnu, learn how to read sarcasm. but if you want to reference my percentages, you should also reference the fact that i had about %70 1sts-3rds before i started tanking. sheesh.

and kwiz, i cant stand how many 1700 accounts i see on unrated tables. makes getting to 1250 a very hard task.

Monte, this is the first I've heard of tanking. I'm just stating that I've seen a lot of players in the top 100-300 with scores in the 1500-1700 range.

Do you think it's fair that I get 6 points for a 2nd place finish and -30 to -40 for a 6th place?

fair or not fair, its sort of rude to insinuate that everyone above 1800 is there due to luck. i guess i was slightly offended when i read that... and then when you cited me as an example (when you didnt know what i had been through this month)... i was frustrated enough to post a reply.

but its always fun to compliment kwiz. he is the k in kdice.

Grandgnu, you are average, learn it, love it, and most of all deal with it.

You play more games than most people so you can inflate you ranking quite a bit. If I played 300 games I could have one of my accounts in the top 25.

I'm an average player, maybe slightly above, but not in the elite group of players. If you made it to the 1800s and couldn't hang on then you aren't good. Yes you were 19XX and played a guy 1813 but at some point you were the low man around 1813 and you know what you did? You lost and fell out of the 1800s. It's hard to fall out of teirs because of this. Lower players take much smaller losses than higher places and you still couldn't cut it.

You can't deny at some point you were low man on the table clutching to hang on to that 1800 rating. Learn to play smart what games to attack and win and what games to play it same to try and pick up a few points.

I loved the monte comparison. The guy held top ELO for about a week and then tanked his account. Hes been a top 10 player for months and you have the audacity to say we put spin on this. You took the numbers that were artificially generated (him purposely trying to finish last) to prove your point, which was what again?

You don't have a leg to stand on. Prove it next month at the 1600 tables hot shot, be a hero!

You claim to see a lot of players in the top 100-300 with scores in the 1500-1700. Please post their names here so we see that the average number of games played for these people is around 250 (which is probably low)

Either that or its a phoenix like Monte, so anyone with a max rating this month of over 2050 is probably doing that (Redsox5445 is in that category as well)

i officially change my vote for kdice president from kehoe to wayne rooney.

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Monte, care to address the numerous comments on your profile accusing you of being involved in pre-game truces?

heh, sure.

i am one of the few people who admits to pga-ing, or as it is now being called, otf-ing. after playing so many times with the same people, i begin to understand their tactics, their tendencies, and their integrity. call me old-fashioned (or a cheater), but i like people who play with integrity, and i don't like people who are cocky. therefore, i start to help people i like, and hurt people i dont like.

in all my time here, i have never seen an unbiased kdicer. but i would like to think its refreshing for someone to admit that they are biased, instead of always smearing others for it. jesus said something like, dont try to take the speck out of someone else's eye if there is a plank of wood in your own. and yes, i just paraphrased jesus. i like him, hes got integrity.