Here's a better argument: when there are no 1900 tables, the 1900 players just don't play!!!! It's just too easy to fall back.

Check it out sometime. Look at all the 1700 tables that are in action. Once in a while, you'll see *1* 1900 at a table. But, because of this crazy "now there're here, now they're not" table system, most 1900's just sit out, when they have no tables to play at.

Please just make the table gaps stable, and get rid of this "automatic" stuff. I don't think you run the site to drive away a portion of your customers (yes, I know it's free, but traffic drives ad clicks, etc, etc).

Thanks a lot,

Gohstlee

I also dont see the sense trying to force the "social levels" into this group of players.

Why exactly top 250 players? Why exactly 3 groups of players? When kdice community grows, isn't it logical that there are more than 250 excellent players? The levels somehow should seperate bad, medicore,good players etc. but hardwiring the numbers that shall fit into any level is also quite ... well not smart.

Why then tables at 100 steps, if top 250 is a category, you could actually as well have their tables start at "1932" points, that would at least stop this constant today here, tommorow gone - if you care about score wait until here - table swaping.

AleaIactaSunt: As far I can remember the discussion months ago, it ended with "yes, well not until 300 gaps are introduced this is not an issue, since every player can jump over 200..."

Now the 300 gaps are here, this argument has been forgotten :)

1. There have been 300 gaps before the 2 greater changes and I managed to overcome them twice.

2. the gap will stabilize just as the 1700 have done (remember the weeks there were 1600/1800 tables after th reset?). I remember the times there were 1500/1700/2000 a very long time. I think there were even 2100 tables at last, but I'm not sure.

3. As the community grows there will of course be more better players. But the relation of good/medium/bad players will stay the same.

So I agree that we should've table limits of top 10%/middle 40%/bad 50% (sth. like it) average ratings rounded to 100s. This is in fact a good idea.
Ryan?

4. Now sth. for math-ppl or Ryan: How many active players do we have? (considering the number of tables, if Ryan doesnt answer and you wanna sort it out...). From this number we could deduce the number of categories we should have. Lets assume we have 10,000 ppl playing, I think 4 categories (no limit,1500,1700,2000) is fine, but when we will be 15,000, we could think about a new category. Depends on the average number of games/week and person, too.

The gap between my anus and testicles is too big and I'm sad about it ... =( pls read Ryan I need your help!

I can only speak for myself and have to say, that a 300 pts gap isannoying, i even do not try to break it. Instead I play until I reach 1900 and then use my next account.

Can I try to make another summerize?

a) Yes a very good player can still get through a 300 gap. So if you want to be in the top league, you should be able to

b) However there were a lot of people that are now there, that did not have to go through this gap.

c) Is this fair? IMHO, not.

i am agree sarah !!
You can not play at a 1700 table when you are 1950 and around 100th.
You win so few point when you are fisrt and loose so many when you are 4th , 5th, 6th or 7th than you can not go back 2000 :(
Please leave at least one 1900 table
(sorry for my poor english ;) )

This gap is possible to beat (I started the month at 1800s and made it to the 2000s through 1700s) but like fuzzy said many people up there did not have to go through the tough 300 point gap. Also the only way to beat the gap is to get a few firsts in a row which usually means a few good starts in a row. Luck would not be so big an issue with 1 1900 table.

I also feel annoyed. I understand how the tables work and why there are so few 1900 tables or so many 2000 tables or whatever. That's fine. What bugs me is that due to the lack of 1900 tables it is no longer easy to join up and find a game. I'll wait for 20 minutes at a table and a few people will come and go but nothing will happen. It wasn't like that before. Maybe there could be a minimum table setting? No less than 4 tables at each level? i dunno... I'm just disgruntled and wish I was able to play the game because I like it so much.