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As players, what do you want from KDice?
Posted By: MadHat_Sam at 4:38 PM, Monday August 8, 2011 EDT
*This is not a discussion of mechanical changes you would like, read the Notes at the end before commenting please*
As has been discussed ad nauseum, us moderators have limited power and limited tools to punish players for transgressions or to encourage fair play. This isn't a post looking to continue that discussion.

As players what do you want from each other, from the game and from the moderators?

I have done my best to be a passive admin, since that is how I prefer administration of games and forums to be. I am never offended myself by the words of others although I may be disappointed by them for a variety of reasons so I often don't act when people are being politically incorrect. As individuals I don't have much actual animosity towards people here, although I often express displeasure with how people play, most often that is MadHat_Sam the player talking though not the moderator.

As players You/We/I look to the higher authorities to fix the game, to solve problems be it trying to get a moderator to ban someone or Ryan to fix some bug or issue. If this avenue worked that would be fine, but it has been obvious that appealing to authority does nothing to advance KDice, so I put this to you players, why look above instead of looking around?

Self policing each other instead of wanting moderators to solve the problems. This is a social game and applying social pressure to people that care about the game will always be more effective then hoping some authority solves the problem.

You don't like how Player A and Player B play with each other, PGA/OTF etc..., next time you sit at a game rally the board to kill them in round 1. Sure posting in the forums and writing reviews can help, especially at the lower levels but that isn't the only action to take.

The solution to most of the games problems doesn't just fall at the feet of moderators or Ryan, it is on you all as players.

When rnd formed the cabal to help win trophies Ryan wasn't the person that prevented him from doing so, the rest of the players were. Forming an-anti cabal and doing their best to take him down. The relationships and bonds players formed and care for competitive games carried KDice through 5 significant scoring changes in less than a year between August of 2007 and March of 2008. The 2k elo community spread from what it was to create a larger and more vibrant player base the thrived until the last year or so when game play has began to stagnate.

You can fix that, by changing how you play and changing the type of boring stagnant game play that is fostered in KDice.

So what do you want as players. Do you want totalitarian moderation that would be severe and arbitrary? Because the tone of the last few days seems to imply that. Or do you want to take some responsibility on to you the players and try to force change on a more meta and social level? On a level that might create more positive change and a better game.

So what do you want?

*Notes*
-Monte sorry for simplifying KHistory, please refrain from posting a correction here and feel free to write a separate forum post to illuminate my ignorance.
-Wanting better tools for moderators, different game mechanics and more action from Ryan is great, but doesn't really do much to further the game as that point has been beat to death.

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its really chase wrote
at 3:17 AM, Thursday July 28, 2011 EDT
things that could be done with the tools we all have:

-since there is no way to sticky/remove posts in this forum, make a MOD post thats titled 'PGA reporting' (or something like that) and make that an open place for anyone to report PGA. Instructions and proper procedure would need to be somewhere in that post obviously. The mods can constantly keep updating that post with the names and dates of the cheaters that have been caught on behalf of that post so that it stays on top, and so that is shows the community that progress is being made and that their voices are being heard.
-be verbal on the tables [not on the forum for christ's sake]. if one player has a problem with another player's game, let them know about it. if a noob just made a noob mistake, teach them how to fix it. if someone is obviously playing favorites, call them out on it. silently and passively observing these things isnt going to change them any faster. what's that cheesy gandhi saying? oh yeah, 'be the change you want to see in the (k)world.'
-try a tutoring program? im not sure exactly how one would go about setting this up, but it seems like a good idea. that big long list of topics that someone laid out in one of those threads would be a good place to start, but you could go as far as matching experienced players with interested noobs.
-make little hokey 'av themes' or whatever, but try to get as many people involved in it as possible.

i dunno thats all i got for now.
danceswithdices wrote
at 12:07 AM, Saturday July 30, 2011 EDT
no mods no rules whoever cheats best wins the month

actually

like, that would be fun if you dont want to cheat to win you're a loser
A Niggler wrote
at 6:51 PM, Saturday July 30, 2011 EDT
Ryan should be asking this not you Sam.
Vermont wrote
at 6:52 PM, Sunday July 31, 2011 EDT
Unfortunately, he's not. But you're right - he should.
Jazz333 wrote
at 10:00 PM, Monday August 1, 2011 EDT
I find the lower tables to be a much better game (not that I hardly ever get high enough to play higher games)because of what seems to be a close community of known players at the higher level.
I also dislike the language, occasional question about my sex life (?!), racial comments and the like. Perhaps a reminder on every game, a flash up before every game stating PGA and racial comments etc are not tolerated and that some games are monitored and banning is a consequence. Just a reminder, some people probably don't know about the moderators.
I also think a PGA posting page is good for people to look at if they feel it is happening in a game, they can then post and eventually everyone will see who is accused often enough and players will then refuse to play when they are together...rambling I know.
Its a hard one, this game actually reflects true life, we would all like to be given a fair go but there will always be the few who chose to go the easy non fun way - cheating and name calling...
damncows wrote
at 12:12 AM, Thursday August 4, 2011 EDT
Anonymity. Best idea yet. Can it work?
fcuku_ wrote
at 11:00 AM, Saturday August 6, 2011 EDT
Kdice wishlist:

1) Matchmaking for the tables
2) Better forum
3) ELO
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