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nodice4u wrote
at 2:31 PM, Wednesday January 2, 2013 EST
Would you like to wager an Abraham Lincoln on the upcoming battle this Sunday?

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KDICEMOD wrote
at 3:14 PM, Wednesday January 2, 2013 EST
I'm broke son...

Got a pay raise and had it taken away thanks to the tax increase.

I'm confident we'll beat the homesick Seahawks (3-5 on the road), but a wager is out of the question.
nodice4u wrote
at 3:25 PM, Wednesday January 2, 2013 EST
A gentleman's bet it is then. I would have much rather played the Cowgirls and the INT machine they have at QB. How can he be so good yet so bad.

I have faith that the Seahawks will pull out the victory but it's never a sure thing when we play on the road. What is up with FedEx field? It looked like they had a monster truck show before the game last week.

The way I see it whoever gets the early lead will probably hold on to get the win. I'm hoping RG3 has that brace on again and he is slowed down a little.
KDICEMOD wrote
at 3:40 PM, Wednesday January 2, 2013 EST
I actually hope he has the brace on too. He wasn't as wild on his runs but he was still effective running the ball. A good learning experience for him.

It's rained a lot on the east coast recently and the field was definitely chewed up. I think this will be the best matchup of the weekend for many reasons, not the least of which being that it's pitting the guys that will finish 1-2 in the ROY voting (along with Morris who will be top 5).

Final: Redskins 23 Seahawks 17
Venezuela wrote
at 12:36 PM, Thursday January 3, 2013 EST
1-2 ???
doubtful

wilson is 3
luck/rg3 would be a 1-2 matchup
Thraxle wrote
at 1:39 PM, Thursday January 3, 2013 EST
Luck can't hold a candle to either of the other two QBs. The Colts have won IN SPITE of Luck in many games.

Their offense was widely mediocre and turnover prone. Luck required SEVEN comeback wins against an extremely easy schedule. Their 11 wins are against teams with a combined record of 71-105 (average record of 6.45-9.55). Luck had 23 TDs to 18 INTs and one of the worst QB ratings in football (76.5).

The Colts had seven non-offensive touchdowns this year and five of those TDs were scored in wins. Luck had PLENTY of help this year. He had a lower sack % than RG3 or Russell Wilson. He only broke the rookie yardage record because of them chucking the ball all year (and having to play from behind A LOT).

Add ALL OF THAT to the 54.1% completion rate he has (which is horrible) and you have a candidate that should finish absolutely no higher than 3rd and possibly 4th or 5th.

Luck will be great, don't get me wrong, but he was not superior to RG3 or Wilson at all this year. Not even close.
nodice4u wrote
at 1:45 PM, Thursday January 3, 2013 EST
Mr 3, who is Rookie Of The Year?

RG3: Alfred Morris of course.
Thraxle wrote
at 2:04 PM, Thursday January 3, 2013 EST
As a matter of fact, let's overview the 7 comeback wins:

Week 2 - Vikings 23-20

The Colts score a total of 6 points in the second half and win thanks to a Vinateri 53 yard field goal.

Luck's line: 20-31 224 yds 2 TD 0 INT

Week 5 - Packers 30-27

The second best game Luck had all year. Came storming back in the second half.

Luck's line: 31-55 362 yds 2 TD 1 INT

Week 8 - Titans - 19-13 OT

Colts score a whopping 13 points in regulation, win the coin toss and score in overtime.

Luck's line: 26-38 297 yds 1 TD 1 INT

Week 9 - Dolphins - 23-20

Another clutch Vinatieri FG from 43 yards sews this one up against the Fins. Big statistical day from Luck on this one.

Luck's line: 30-48 433 yds 2 TD 0 INT

Week 13 - Lions - 35-33

Luck's best comeback of the year. Two 4th quarter TDs despite a really bad game prior to that.

Luck's line: 24-54 391 yds 4 TD 3 INT

Week 14 - Titans - 27-23

Luck did literally nothing to help in this game. The best example you can find about a team winning IN SPITE OF their QB. The Colts score 20 2nd half points on a rushing TD, interception return, and two FGs.

Luck's line: 16-34 196 yds 1 TD 2 INT

Week 16 - Chiefs - 20-13

A pick-six and two FGs were all the scoring accomplished by the Colts until Luck threw a TD pass with 4 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. Another very mediocre performance.

Luck's line: 17-35 205 yds 1 TD 0 INT


Some decent games in there for sure, but plenty of help both defensively and on special teams. His season is overrated based on his schedule played and lots of "luck".
Thraxle wrote
at 2:06 PM, Thursday January 3, 2013 EST
It's between RG3 and Wilson, but I'd give to RG3 for 3 reasons:

#1: He hasn't had one of the best defenses in the NFL playing on the other side of the ball for him.

#2: RG3 has been consistent in his play from week 1. Solid or great in all but 2 games.

#3: Because I'm a Redskins homer.
Thraxle wrote
at 3:27 PM, Sunday January 6, 2013 EST
Andrew Luck as ROY = case closed

Hemingway wrote
at 6:59 PM, Sunday January 6, 2013 EST
Russel Wilson = rookie of the year
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