Veta, here is a video of his response to the racist charges. Knocks it out of the park in my opinion. You still think he is racist? :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw

This is a good read for you dead: http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/48621

Why is it a good read? Just the same old arguments re-hashed. Plus there are many factual errors and claims without sources.

The article claims to have evidence that Ron Paul is lying; but conveniently gives no source or indication what the evidence is.

Then it undermines it's own arguments by later calling Ron Paul a racist fruitcake. Basically it's some progressive bomb thrower with a blog.

Where is the evidence that Ron Paul has lied. Where is the audio clips of him espousing these beliefs? Certainly you need more evidence of racism then a racist comment or two in a newsletter. Btw; Ron Paul was the publisher. I know publishing isn't your business; but I happen to be in the publishing business. If someone puts some racist comments in a book; does that make HarperCollins racist? Does it make RandomHouse racist? No; because publishers are only tangentially associated with the actual publication. Basically they are the vehicle for the material; not the author.

If anything you should be calling the author; or the editor racist. The publisher is at best a victim; or at worse negligent.

Ron Paul has claimed he was negligent. It was a side project for him. He was practicing medicine; and he was traveling the country doing speeches. The newsletters were investment newsletters. He disavowed them decades ago and the newsletter was shutdown.

Sure Ron Paul isn't perfect; no one is claiming he is. However; calling him racist is just ridiculous.

Show me a clip of him being racist. The fact that you can't even show a single quote of him being racist is proof enough of your ability to jump to conclusions when it fits your goals.

I'll believe Ron Paul is racist when I hear it from his mouth; not from your progressive blogs.

Btw; Ron Paul has called for the pardon of all non-violent drug offenders. Wow what a racist.

I'll make sure to donate some money to his next money bomb in your behalf. It is being held on MLK day :p

-at

Putting out a newsletter advocating race war and saying gay people "enjoy" the "attention" of dying from AIDS is slight negligence?

You Paulophiles are a cult. Paul even lied about not knowing who the author was.

fyi the dailymail is a conservative website not left or liberal or progressive or anything i would associate with

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1PRFB_enUS442US442&ix=hcb&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=daily+mail+bias

I made my point. You'll have to make up your own mind; because I'm over it.

This whole thread is why politics simply will not work. Too many people are too proud, too stubborn, too educated and too iron headed to compromise on anything. It's like we are playing a card game where every player has been holding onto the same 8 cards for the last 5 years and nobody can play or discard because everyone voted that those actions are illegal.

Chase I think this is natural though. The USA is at a turning point. It literally has to make a choice between two completely opposite paths. These paths cannot compromise because they are antithetical to each other.

So sure; things don't really move at the moment because the electorate is still deciding which path is the direction it wants to go in. These things take time.

Electorate is fluid and the choices are very high stakes. I think it is prudent for the country to be slow in making decisions (perhaps the timing isn't perfect); but that is how it works. Cultural change takes place over the course of decades not days.

Once the culture has sufficiently moved in one direction; compromise won't be necessary. One direction will enjoy a political plurality and the other will become fringe.

Trust me; this debate doesn't end with Veta's position suddenly agreeing with my position. It ends with a cultural change that eventually withers away the others support. Till eventually it becomes history.

There was no compromise between Marxism and Capitalism. Marxism lost the cultural battle and has thus become a fringe element of society (speaking only of the USA here).

This doesn't mean that debate is worthless. On the contrary; it is debate that influences the cultural change itself.

So to answer your question in poker terms. Sure people are holding the same cards for 5 years; but this poker game will last millennia. So 5 years; is actually 5 seconds in this game.