Monte, i have to disagree with you here. My involvment in the sam discussion has nothing to do with veta. It has to with Erk which I know for a long time and got permabanned while playing against Sam (and killing him) which i found completely irrational (see my other post: mod should not mod whike they are playing). as a principle, mods agree with me but at the end of the day, will Erk get back is account. The answer is No. And you know why? I dont.

So regardless of veta... I woukd have made the same post and will continue until someone explains how sam could prrmaban a player that just killed him.

As i said, in law, there is saying. You cannot be judge and part of the accusation. I wished it was the case here.