yah, all the old cabal guys sort of did their penance... except those who refused to (rnd/int). whether it involved tanking out of a gold medal, or paying $110 for a gold medal, Ryan was pleased enough in the end to forgive. and id like to think weve done well since. from what i know, das/wish/me havent been involved in any scheming since summer 07. i think the last time i was truly fucking around was when the cabal/anticabal joined forces for a few days with the shared accts

Ryanth
anks4f
U KING U
pkdi
ceforus

but we destroyed the games so quick so fast that Ryan quickly figgered us out. i still lol at the U KING U moniker.

oh wait, das did scheme some shit up in xsketch, whenever it opened up, lol.

was that when i got unbanned to play and you didn't? i forget. regardless, we had a few small talks.

those alts were funny.

int and i were, for the lack of a better term 'beta testing' xsketch. we had the pot up to a shitassload of points, ryan came in the room, sat and stole the pot.

good wasted hour imo.

I am done with this one....
Ill leave you to your act of wars...

0632242545 you suggest I am committing character assassination....



if bivo was to come in here and spout something off remarkably genius, I would acknowledge it. I don't care who said it. If it's VALID, supported, I'm in... regardless of author.

Here's a premise, try and argue it, you can't.

Since I truly know nothing of your "character", it's virtually impossible for me to "accurately" attack something I essentially know nothing or little about. Furthermore, the exact "nature" of your character is quite irrelevant, and plays no role or at least shouldn't play one as to the validity in your arguments. They are what they are, legitimate or otherwise. Character, matters not.

More importantly....

Any solid sound argument will easily withstand such minor and pitiful attacks such as "character" asassination. It will in fact withstand virtually ALL investigation. If it's genuinely BACKED by demonstrable basic elementary "Facts"...the deeper the investigation into it, the stronger the case becomes without any additional help from the author, because the uncontroversial facts of themselves will be what are found and in turn revealed....

try and debate that.

Essentially, you haven't countered anything. All you've really said is... Im being mean to you. And carry no interest in having a discussion with me since I belong to the confederacy. I've no issue on both points. Both irrelevant. I'm going after your shit and what i perceive as your "method" and an aim of sorts. If I was to do what you do I could eventually make the common fence post a close relative to the ripe banana. Anyone could. Both represent "a class" of oblong objects found on earth. Big deal. True, but how relevant. Shift that "class" even from edible to non edible and the whole thing starts coming apart. The higher you go up that ladder of abstractions the easier it is to maneuver, but the higher the risk your argument comes apart being further removed from the lower basic elementary facts, sets, classes, etc. Something you seem especially fond of ignoring.

you have to define ...success. (versus...FAIL)

A most critical MEASURABLE element of "success" in any debate or discussion could be found in the "rate of efficiency" in coming to a mutual (and useable) agreement via examination of the most basic elementary facts. The sooner this happens the sooner the debate ends. If a stalemate occurs due to some "irreconcilable" differences an agreement is still struck. No resolution can be had. Debate terminates. To the degree that isn't your primary aim, the more you are interested in merely ejaculating. I'm not knocking it, but lets just call it what it is. I followed your first clusterfuck for several pages before I threw in. You went on for miles, I cough up a mere 2 posts and am met with acknowledgment and an endorsement from a few mods plus an additional "invitation" to please carry on with the discussion.

Was it asskissing? Don't even bother suggesting I was seeking their "approval" because it just ain't it. My aim or goal was to establish what I felt were some basic elementary facts and more importantly some strong contingencies about the site, specifically as it applied to the discussion. Right or wrong is irrelevant. Had I been met with dis-agreement and shown the erroneous errors, I would have adjusted my information until I had the facts straight when it comes to THE REALITY of the site. The "reality" part is pretty important shit when it comes to using "the method" you dumbass. Nonetheless disagreement isn't what I got but quite the opposite. So lets do the measurement. If you are looking to submit something useful to the site owners and support in terms of accountability or a correction and it is ALSO something that is ...ALIGNED with the sites owners/support aims, you're solutions will be welcomed and embraced. How much has that happened. From what I see not a lot. On the other hand you yourself haven't offered any direct counter
to any of the claims I presented as it applies to this discussion. It's leads one to a couple of conclusions and I'm going to suggest it's because you're unable to produce one and goin near it throws a wrench in your shit. It's much easier to simply avoid all of it, find a way to wriggle out by writing me off as part of the confederacy. It's a nice try, but if that's -ALL- you got, then it says volumes. There's been no real counter. And absent that you bitch and complain about my disposition towards you which i'll admit hasn't been all pleasant, but that's all you've done.Either produce something of a counter or cowboy the fuck up. Beats complaining and might actually show that you have something. That said, how much of this you're paying much attention to doesn't matter much. Others might be which is where it's directed more so anyway. I've nothing invested as to an expected commentary from you.

cool this will never end

Gangsterrrr,
You are unfortunately not someone i would call on my side if i wanted to debate. You had not even finished your second sentence that you were already contradicting yourself.
"since i know nothing of your character... It would be impossible to attack someone... I know little about".
You should do like the others. When you do not know what to say, just stop arguing.

I agree ehervey, I will follow your method of arguing instead.

Let me make a list of random demands that no one cares about and no one has any authority to enlist.

I suggest we make these changes to the rules of modding in kdice to make it a better place!
1. Thraxle has to make me a sandwich every time I lose a 5v3
2. Anyone who argues against me is automatically a nazi sympathizer
3. Anyone who commits [2] will be permanently banned and also forced to make me a sandwich.
4. Outrage when no one takes my stupid lists seriously.

Matt,
Surprisingly, this was actually quite funny!
What i realized in this little exchange is that noone participating in the forum actually really cares about making kdice a better site. It is more like endless discussions. Reminds me when i was 20 and somking pots, which actually makes sense as most of you are 20.