jona, watch veta's video. you owe him an apology.

veta, i'll repeat myself that im not making a comment on what sam said, im making commentary on what jona said. and how i dont believe he is honestly offended.

and fwiw, you said the word retarded dozens of times during every tinychat convo ive seen you in. so you owe yourself dozens of apologies. just proxy and itll work.

I said the apology should be directed towards the community as a whole. That's who Sam is letting down.

click the Previous link, then read what you wrote about being offended by me as if i was defending the usage of the word retard. you then linked me to a youtube, since wikipedia must not have had an appropriate link. the youtube was a good PSA about why ppl shouldnt use the word retarded.

oh wait, i NEVER said its cool to say retarded. i NEVER used it. the only ppl off the top of my head that used it were: jona in kdice, and you in tinychat.

and several others who dont find it offensive. just odd that the two people who are blowing up the most about the R-word are the same ones that use it in a derogatory fashion.

I think the reaction of the community is more towards Sam saying people with down syndrome should be left out to die.

Also I feel that as a moderator Sam should be held to a higher standard and serve as an example to the community at large, don't you?

That's why it's doubly important that he apologize and sets the proper example here. Otherwise people (including you me and jona) will end up thinking the use of slurs is okay when it's not. Or maybe the use of slurs is okay except when a moderator feels like it's not... but that would make the moderation here temperamental and hypocritical :(

Sam didn't MEAN downs kids should be left to die. His comment was meant towards Jona in a deragatory, off-color sense. Stop acting like you can't understand the context of his comment you overzealous dipshit.

Since when did known a known cheater/schemer be made the voice of the kcommunity? I call for a recount.

apropos coming from someone who Sam called his and the rest of the cabal's Bitch.

veta you weren't even a player of the game then

And neither of us were alive during Grandfather Law clause, yet for some reason I feel like nobody cares that you made a reference to it.