to answer your question, I would direct that towards the millionaires in France, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, and other highly socialist countries.

but yeah that is a typical talking point you bring up, if you don't realize it. when people make points you can't argue against ideologically you get into the numbers Rob. Nobody is talking about numbers, we're talking about ideology here.

To answer your question from post # 10, the US Constitution was written in a way that allowed it to be amended. It can be torn apart, rewritten, and torn apart again if lawmakers deem it neccessary. Or perhaps we should rehash whether or not women and blacks should be allowed to vote every 19 years?

I'm assuming your last post was an "agree to disagree" attempt? If I were a millionaire and this country all of a sudden decided to escalate taxes astronomically, I'd take my money somewhere else. Why should I sit in this country and take care of everyone else? I already employ 500 people, pay for the majority of their healthcare, invest in their retirement, and donate to a variety of charitable causes. Why should I sit idly by and watch the US Government take my money and do with it as they please (welfare/war/foreign aid/etc.)?

Your ideology states that I have a RESPONSIBILITY to take care of the populace by paying my "fair share" of taxes, regardless of where I started in life. My hard work and good fortune should not be kept by me, it should be shared by others whether THEY deserve it or not.

That about right?

Thrax, was it hard to click a link that read www.democraticunderground.com?

Yeah, it fucking sucked. Most people disagreed with the sentiment in the poll anyways.

you mean, three years ago, most people disagreed.

Jefferson's notion was that the constitution or parts of it would require revision every generation or so. I don't think it's a bad idea. Women and blacks would probably have gotten equal rights a lot sooner if this was the case.


As for your proposal of being a millionaire and taking your money elsewhere you are assuming you can just pack up your income creating business and move it to a different country or am I wrong? There's a reason there's businesses in countries other than the USA it's because these countries have infrastructure conducive to a profitable business (roads, police, consumers, etc). If your taxes were raised to the Eisenhower rates I doubt anybody would leave over it. They'd lose the ability to take advantage of the American market.

So there's your why.

I'd pack up shop and retire. 500 jobs laid off. Money in my pocket with a one-time payment to the Federal Government.

Why would they lose "the ability to take advantage of the American market"? If you squeeze a rich man's pennies, he'll try to find other ways to make more money. This would lead businesses to immediately raise prices and/or lower costs everywhere. Perhaps purchasing cheaper parts from China now, or maybe closing up a distribution center in California costing people jobs. A business will find a way back to making the profits it had before if it means taking greater advantage of the buying public.