0632242545 you also wrote... "the constitution is a very helpful document that our forefathers created to guide our nations but it by no means was supposed to be held in dogma. i think you'll find most of of the drafters of the constitution, especially madison (who is considered the document's godfather) held this belief -- so let me reiterate something that i've said many times before: dogma is the source of all conflict. whether its religious dogma (as was the motive for most of history's bloodiest conflicts), nationalist dogma (world war 1), racial dogma (rwanda), or the state dogma that fueled the regimes of Stalin and Hitler - ultimately dogma was the source of the world's greatest atrocities."

I've made a similar claim that our historical religious conflicts have had little to do with squabbles over differences in faith. Religion has largely been the "mental technology" only... used to propel the advance towards conquest.

The constitution for the most part has been rendered impotent anyways which pretty much makes it little more than dogma already. I believe it did serve a function and I believe it actually was successful ... for a time.

Suggesting we all think for ourselves is great. You seem like an intelligent guy who can actually do that. The over all social structure not so much. Not even close. Hence the inherent sense, certain “limits” had to applied. That had consequences if not followed. I cant imagine opening the barn all at once, which I don’t believe it’s what you’re implying anyways. While the concept of International law applicable to all people equally is a sound notion, the US really has no interest in this. I agree the document has pretty much outlived it’s usefulness or lost its ability to function effectively and through sheer necessity will eventually be disposed of or entirely reconfigured at which point things will get a little messy. But not before the US has a run at keeping it around awhile, enforcing it upon those when it’s handy while giving themselves plenty of exemption in the name of protection or some rhetorical American sounding set of slogans . There is still empire to be had. Resources to gain control of and subjugate at the whim of corporate enterprise and money to be made for the military industrial complex by making sure conflict remains as a staple in our economy.

greekboi- non-americans who commit crimes in the US, including murder, are entitled to the same "due process" that americans are... so im not entirely sure what you're talking about