Obviously neither. If something like that were to happen in the USA; I would move somewhere else.

BOOGY!!

I encourage you to fact check those charts on the dept of the treasury webpage.

all charts veta posts are fact. no need.

Veta's problem is that he doesn't read, doesn't understand, or misinterprets the data that he posts.

not to rain on anyone's veta parade but those charts are factual and more up to date spending figures were posted later.

I actually am Veta and am gonna take some behind the scenes credit on this shit show of a thread. That miguel account isn't mine but I don't think owner really cares. That being said, I do agree with the premise that conservative economic ideology was rooted in post-civil rights prejudice. Eventually it became so abstract that that's really not the case anymore but it's not really anything to be ashamed of. The capitalist-hybrid economy we operate under was rooted in the industrial revolution and its abuses of child labor and other bourgeois cruelty. that's okay though, i still like manufactured things.

To Skrum: ...says the most obstinate person in the room.

I think child labor is OK if the child gets to keep the fruits of his labor.

Do they get to keep there fingers?

Only if they're careful operating the saws, torches, grinders, fork lifts, and nail guns.