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Why I will stop playing Kdice... and so do many other people.
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WWCSD wrote
at 1:55 AM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT
About two months ago I found this website because I really liked risk and so this game seemed really like it. I started playing it on my iphone on the bus, in between classes or when I was on my dorm taking a study break.
I think is a great game. One of the best online. I love the strategy to it and the social aspect. That was until about a few weeks ago. I realized that its mostly social... or whether or not your friends play it. I play it alone and have found it really challenging to rank up in my second month. This month however I have cracked a good plan to follow if you plan to play it as it is supposed to. 15 of my friends started playing this about 2 months ago. Now only 3 of us play it. I wonder what the percentage of active accounts/total accounts is. I really don't understand why it is not made with random tables. Just like the tourneys. I understand it would take longer but I really believe more people would play it if it was done that way, therefore decreasing the time it would take to make several tables. Group people together that have played the least among themselves. Quite a simple algorithm that could be made with something similar to a hashtable and a hashfunction. That would solve the PGA problem that kills the real competition of the game. For those of you who play the game the best this is what I have observed to be successful in the two months I have been playing. - Play in the tourneys...(this is where I find that most skillful players win often) yes there are also pgas but they won't always be together since tables are made randomly. - Avoid the 2ks or 5ks tables until 5 days before the close of the month and go to those tables during high traffic hours. - Try to switch up tables every other game. - Do PGE people that PGA with others. Teach them a lesson. I will finish up this month and try to get a top 25 badge and that will be it for me. Cheaters have really taken the fun out of it. |
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Travis O Johnson wrote
at 12:30 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT you cannot have a "social" game without PGA
ive been saying that for four years now and i stand by it ppl are not going to ruin the games of ppl they respect and/or like organized PGA is a problem there are different levels of pga and pga will always be a part of this game cya again 4 years from now with the same message |
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CCSKAOT wrote
at 12:45 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT 5 years* 10 year anniversary?
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superxchloe wrote
at 12:51 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT oh, my bad for playing for fun. if I wanted a first I would probably play more of pay for membership.
you can't deny that my second point is accurate though. |
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deadcode wrote
at 2:02 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT I totally agree with Monte's explanation.
The reason I say you are nothing special, BO, is that the difference between being an top25-50 (TP) and Gold is just will. The vast majority of TPs are not going for Gold because of the effort. So the difference between Gold and Non-Gold is just a matter of willpower. It isn't hard to tell who is going for Gold. It is always the friend (pretty much everyone is my friend) that is more grabby for DOM then in past months. There is a very noticeable DOM obsession that comes with going for first; this comes in many forms (Monte already mentioned some; noob farming/manip); but the general principle is the same; you need to be overly aggressive about getting DOM; much more so then everyone else at the table. Many times walking the line of burning social bridges a long the way. You call this meta-game; I just call this obvious; obvious for all the TPs that is. Winning Gold takes effort; and it is definitely a notable achievement; but as you stated yourself BO; the general mechanics of the game are very easily mastered. Making the difference between Gold and top 50 just the willpower to reap your social group of points at the risk of drama. Comparing yourself to me is silly; because we play with completely different mindsets. You play for your trophies which is fine; and I play with the mindset that every game is an end in itself (basically I consider each game as the only thing that matters). Obviously tournaments and/or when your points are on the border of being knocked down to 100s. |
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deadcode wrote
at 2:04 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT are exceptions
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deadcode wrote
at 2:33 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT Thanks Travis for the compliment but I don't really view myself as being in the running for "best player" on KDice. I might be in the running for having one of the largest social circles; but I don't leverage it for points. I generally just joke around and converse.
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Thraxle wrote
at 2:48 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT I'm the best at KDice, everyone knows this.
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montecarlo wrote
at 2:53 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT yeah to get a gold, you either have to have a lucky month or turn up your sap-meter to 11.
by 'lucky month' i dont mean lucky rolls or lucky starts/restacks. i mean whomever else has decided to go for 1st that month. some of the most epic months were massive clashes where two egomaniacal dicers decided they wanted to win a month, and couldnt accept 2nd (for me, january 08 against leek). just in the recent khistory there are some months where 100k+ points would get you 5th place, and then theres this insane month where nodice got gold with 92k. hell, nodice wasnt trying to get 1st all month. he just got lucky that there wasnt any drama at all that month, and that someone PGEd him to 1st on the final game (cough, cough). more often than not, willpower alone wont get you a gold. there are months where that is sufficient. leek had a 200k massive win (although it could be argued that he used a lot of social sappiness too). trav had an pretty epic 170k win (2nd had less than 100k). my hypothesis is willpower will be enough to win if you put in machine-like hours early in the month to distance yourself from everyone else. then there is a psychological edge, because no one looks at a 60k point gap and thinks, hey, if i sacrifice my life for two weeks, i MIGHT be able catch this guy and win. on the other hand, if they see a 20k gap, hell yes they have a shot, and they will push themselves. but the majority of months have some type of drama for the gold because at least two people have a shot at winning it. in those situations, where willpower exists in both parties, whoever is the sappiest will win. or bitchiest, thats a better word. bitch whenever anyone hits you, bitch whenever anyone talks smack about you in the chatbox, bitch whenever you win 8k on a 5k game, because it shoulda been 8.3k except you let 2nd and 3rd fight for 2 rounds at the end. thats where the metagame skills makes a huge difference imo. |
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montecarlo wrote
at 2:57 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT from what i remember, thrax was one of my pawns when he first came up. but then i won my gold and calmed down for awhile. shad was sort of my evil spawnchild (with yellowfin, whom he got his finguilt from), and realized he could steal a lot of my powerbase while i was on kvacation. so when i came back and tried to beat him in dec 08, i was upset when i saw thrax feeding him games. he had stolen my bitch. pimps dont like that.
then in early 09 when i played a secret alt for a few months to see how well i could do without my circlejerk, i was honestly offended by how blatantly thrax was feeding shad points. thrax even PGEd me for several games because i was bitching at him so much about it. it was so fucking hard not to out myself and just be like, "YOU FUCKING HOMO, THIS IS MONTE, YOU CANT WIN AN ARGUMENT AGAINST ME!!!" |
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Thraxle wrote
at 2:58 PM, Thursday July 14, 2011 EDT <-------bitch
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