Also what are the grounds to be made mod? Maybe a voting system would be good. 1 vote per person to person.

Ryan just adds people he thinks he can trust as mods when he pleases. There defenitely are not enough mods at the moment.

You seem to be a very good player for the short time that you are playing. There defenitely is pga around. But a large part of the things you encounter are people trusting people they know from previous games more compared to you.

You are new, regulars don't know yet if they can trust you in truces etc. I can only advise you to try and stay a bit longer and I am sure part of the things you complain about will go away by itself. But as a mod, I do apologise for no tbeing able to get rid of all the pga's for you. I am sure you will agree it's not always easy to prove them beyond reasonable doubt but that's not really an excuse I guess.

This "social" aspect probably has too big of an influence on the Kdice ranks. I am also in favor of a random table style competition but let's be honest. The site creator has not changed much in the last 5 years. Such a drastic change will never happen.

So I would be sorry to see a good fresh new player go. We need players like you and I hope Ryan reads your post.

I feel for you WWCSD because I know what it seems at first; but consider things from this angle.

Yes KDice is a social game; but what you are seeing is not PGA (except for a minority of cases). It is what I like to call advanced board reading and proactive social game.

For example; Player A and Player B are in a position where one can attack the other. If one player doesn't attack (when they tactically should) the other player will recognize that as a silent truce.

I know it is discerning to learn the game has a social element; I know it was for me; but I think you will begin to appreciate the vast strategy involved when risk like game mechanics are combined with social diplomacy.

The key to higher level table is to be social (saying hi never hurts) and convincing other players that you are trustworthy of alliances by understanding what a silent truce is. Truces are just as important on a 5k table as they are on a 0 table. The difference is that truces on the 5k table are instantly countered if they are in the open; this is why you must silent truce.

Another skill is to learn to identify and rally a counter vs a silent truce.

If you aren't silent trucing on 500 to 5k you are missing the strategy necessary to win.

Also be talkative but not annoying or bitchy.

Anyway hope this helps add to your game.

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yeah i'd listen to dead, look how many months he's won.

if you really want to do well ONLY play 2ks and 5ks and build up a repertoire with the people who play these tables. if you want to do well in the ranks there's really no other way to do it.

that last time I played a 500 table seriously was maybe 2 years ago.

BO I've played with you 100s of times... you are nothing special... sorry.

one of the best players iv'e ever played with

Thanks smurf, I'm probably rusty these days though :). And dead I dont think you ever ventured up to the high tables much so I can hardly ever remember playing with you.

bo, dont be hatin, you cannot teach a new guy all you know, but as an advice on how to barrel through the barrier I think deads advice was very good.

it is both good and bad that having a name has value, that means that you get payoff for playing trustworthy and payback from being an ass. on the other hand, it also means that having no name is damaging.

and I know, veta, you and other people change their accs every so often, proving that you can do it with a fresh acc. but really, how long time does take before someone asks you if you are an alt?

being familiar with the culture on the top, and how the social structures are, will give alot of payoff. knowing how to attack a person without upsetting them is a skill.

example; If I would attack madhatSam, i would make sure I destroyed him, and got a real shot at 1st, those kinds of attacks sam will forgive. other players, I might chose to nib at, some I might chose to threaten, and some players I would do a half attack knowing that I can get their flag if I just reduce them.

since it has been a long time since I used to play 2K, I cannot say who I would do all of these things to nowadays, but the fact that I would use my knowlage about how they react to attacks shows abit of the increased depth on higher tables.

In some sense, similar players tends to truce among themselves more often. I know I had definitly players I used to truce more often, and players I used to fight more often. and for a player sitting on the table would take that into concideration when he/she was looking for who truces.





anyways, that was just some short notes. what I would advice to you is to make your name known, this thread is actually a very good start. playing 1-2 games on 2k, and talking about the game after with the 'top' players that played will often get the top players to give you advice, and then play nicely to you the next few games. people love teaching away, that way they feel like they know some valuable information that is hard to come by. they also love to feel like they are mentoring a new and upandcoming player (no matter how truce this might be).

the key thing is that to get into the top social circles one can either just play ALOT, or one can nudge in while telling the players that already are there that they are the best. everyone loves flattery