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Boner Oiler wrote
at 12:49 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
http://i.imgur.com/HKyGe.jpg
but while i'm on the subject i think these quotes are rather apropos "The first truth is... a democracy is not safe if people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by... any controlling private power." - Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1938 "American fascists are easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest..." - Henry Wallace, 1944 |
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montecarlo wrote
at 10:17 AM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT i gotta be honest, those tl;dr posts got me horny.
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Thraxle wrote
at 10:55 AM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT "What it comes down to is this dead - the reason we have two political parties in the united states instead of one is because one inherently supports the economic interest of the many whereas the other supports the economic interest of an elite few. social issues not taken into consideration, one party has the self interest of the many in mind while the other has the self interest of an elite few in mind. inherently the party of the many has the voting advantage but the party of the few makes up for this in variety of ways (marketing, rebranding, media, wedge issues, etc). I could elaborate on each manner of manipulation but I'm positive it would be lost on you. Ultimately the result is the democratic and republican parties we have today. And I'll be honest sometimes when the democrats forget why there's two parties they start acting like the republicans lite and when that happens the actual republicans get elected (by virtue of being consistent)."
Did you actually believe this paragraph when you wrote it? The media is left biased except for FOX News and Obama broke records for campaign contributions last election. You yourself stated in past conversations how many of the super rich billionaires in this country ARE LIBERAL. How is it then that we are all sheep just moving to the Republican herdsman's call? |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 12:01 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 12:04 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT The Super Outbreak is the second largest tornado outbreak on record for a single 24-hour period, just behind the 2011 Super Outbreak.
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 12:30 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT Dead: Since we used to have a very free market system (since the Civil War and until FDR) can you explain why the economy was becoming more and more unstable with time?
I base this instability on the fact that we had an increasing number of recessions and panics. I showed yah the chart on wikipedia that gave their dates and causes so I don't think I need to show yah again. Now on that same chart it seems directly after the New Deal we immediately began suffering less severe and less frequent recessions (until we deregulated stuff in the 80s but that's a different topic). Please reconcile what the problem with the free markets was in this period from 1865-1945. |
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deadcode wrote
at 3:19 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT BO: "The Super Outbreak is the second largest tornado outbreak on record for a single 24-hour period, just behind the 2011 Super Outbreak."
BO that statement is the same as your previous statement about there being a lot in a 24 hour period. "Largest Outbreak" is not the same as "Largest tornado" but good try... I imagine BO reading an article about "largest flu outbreak" and imagining in his head huge giant flu viruses eating houses and being fought by the army. Lol |
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deadcode wrote
at 3:28 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT BO: "Dead: Since we used to have a very free market system (since the Civil War and until FDR) can you explain why the economy was becoming more and more unstable with time?"
It is simple. The market worked better when the system had less government regulation. Now that we have more regulation the system is less stable. I know you like to harp on and on about the 80's and how much deregulation there was; but you are making mountains out of mole hills here. The whole is way more regulated today then at the founding. Most people today think people before them had it better. Most people back then considered the future generations to have it better. Seems like the trend is that more regulation is bad for the economy. Btw; the economy is way more volatile today then when we were on the gold standard. Once again; distance between recessions is flawed ever since the gold standard. Not to mention that the definition of recession has been changed a bunch of times since the beginning of the chart. Which definition is used? Is it changed over time? All these questions remain unanswered. Which is why visual aids like charts are meant to be a supporting aid to an argument. Not the entire argument. If you are arguing that the world is more stable today then back before the gold standard; then you are nuts. Money had value back then; now it is just a promise made by a government with no intention of keeping promises. When will you wake up and realize Santa Clause is not real. |
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Boner Oiler wrote
at 4:00 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT lol dead what'd you get on your sat for reading comprehension.
lets try this for a 5th time. since the industrialization of the country (post civil war) the economy was become more unstable. u saw this on that wikipedia article that denoted all the recessions and panics. explain why the economy was really unstable and insecure when there were no regulations |
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deadcode wrote
at 4:17 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT I'm reading fine. I just disagree that it was more unstable in the past.
Just because you type something doesn't mean it is fact. |
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its really chase wrote
at 5:37 PM, Wednesday May 25, 2011 EDT remember when forum posts were only about 5 or 6 coherent sentences put together?
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