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My summary (and the reasons for my discontent) of Obama's Presidency
greekboi wrote
at 7:45 PM, Wednesday May 18, 2011 EDT
Can someone PLEASE tell me what good Obama has done for this country since the start of his Presidency? You can write an essay or list bullets, either way is fine. I'm not sure you will be needing more than a sentence though.

Without further ado, here's my summary of Obama's Presidency (in no particular order of importance or chronology) :
-he's shown a lack of convictions/decisiveness (very diplomatically stated) that has been displayed through his failure to implement any of the changes he advocated in his campaign that made him such an attractive candidate
-->his health care reform is good in theory, but it is constitutionally offensive, and it won't work without tort reform (did i mention the bill was over 2000 pages long and didn't even begin to explain how the program would be implemented?)
-->he did not close Guantanamo Bay, nor did he investigate if any human rights abuses occurred during GWB's term
-->he did NOT end American involvement in the ongoing wars in the Middle East
-->he bombed Gaddafi's personal dwelling (where his family lives)
-->he dropped immigration reform
-->he dumped his energy policy
-->he is now caving in to the demands for increased oil drilling and less regulations, which is not only something that Liberals have historically been opposed to, but also can potentially endanger Americans while NOT dropping gasoline prices at all
-->he announced a new national policy this week in which he promises to reduce drug use by focusing on prevention and treatment YET the $10 BILLION of spending on interdiction and law enforcement out of his $15.5 BILLION dollar drug-control budget is a record high in terms of dollars and percentage
-->he showed an inability to react quickly to a major crisis - the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico - yet the media coverage left him relatively unscathed (which is very interesting considering the amount of blame placed on Bush for the lack of cohesiveness surrounding Katrina)
-->he used the aforementioned major crisis to promote green energy (instead of cleaning it up, lol)
-->he created an "economic stimulus" plan (not to be confused with President Bush's "bailout") that he said would not allow unemployment to exceed 8%, although last month it reached 9% (A HISTORIC HIGH)

The only thing clear about Obama's agenda is his vision of increasing entitlement program benefits and paying for it through increased taxation of those providing the most value to society (the high income earners) and over-taxing corporations. This is a great policy, if you support socialism.

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Boner Oiler wrote
at 8:28 AM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
Ya man we were so communist in the 50s when the highest tax rate was 90%. What is it now 35%? Obama wants it to be 39%? Holy shit communist!
dasfury wrote
at 9:00 AM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
-->he showed an inability to react quickly to a major crisis - the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico - yet the media coverage left him relatively unscathed (which is very interesting considering the amount of blame placed on Bush for the lack of cohesiveness surrounding Katrina)

Not really a fair comparison. I would rather see you compare Horizon to another disaster caused by a for-profit corporation, say Exxon Valdez. Shouldn't government have swift reactions to a natural disaster (Katrina) to protect its citizens?

moondust wrote
at 9:21 AM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
I love how the usual hypocrites of this site were all quiet at the peak of Obamania in 2008 and didn't criticise him at all, even though it was ridiculous how high the hopes were and in which fashion he defeated Clinton in the primaries...
Boner Oiler wrote
at 9:32 AM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
personally was rooting for bill to get back in the white house. Yknow he would've run the show.

Obama's administration had way too high expectations to actually fulfill but I think I've come to appreciate how steady he's been in light of all the crazy shit he's had to deal with
dasfury wrote
at 9:33 AM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
Bush's administration had way too low expectations to actually fulfill but I think I've come to appreciate how steady he's been in light of all the crazy shit he's had to deal with
greekboi wrote
at 5:46 PM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
Obama's administration had way too high expectations??? Yeah, only if you were ignorant enough to believe all the rhetoric he spewed out during his whorish campaign. Obama had ZERO expectations going in; it was a win-win for him. If shit failed he had Bush to blame, and if we showed even the slightest bit of improvement he's a champion.
MadHat_Sam wrote
at 5:56 PM, Thursday May 19, 2011 EDT
That simply isn't true Harry, expectations were extremely high, especially on the left. Maybe the moderates didn't have much expectations and the right expected failure, but many on the left had huge expectations.
Boner Oiler wrote
at 2:08 AM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT
Ya I think the sentiment on the left was that were going to get a bully pulpit type president - like Roosevelt or Reagan was. I think Obama is more of a legislative machine though. At the end of the day he's just trying to get Americans the best deal.


Das the only difference I'd like to emphasize is that a lot of the stupid shit the bush administration dealt with was self caused. Like bush choking on a pretzel and then his doctor publishing a book that said he had a bca above .2? Was a British doctor so I'm nor sure what kind of confidentiality laws they have for that.
deadcode wrote
at 2:46 AM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT
Let's face it; both Obama (so far) and Bush will go down in history as bad presidents on domestic issues.

I think most people (regardless of party affiliation) view this presidency as a disappointment.

People were looking for change after Bush. I believe most people will be out looking for change again after Obama.

I would hope that Ron Paul is electable this cycle; but who knows.

Boner Oiler wrote
at 2:54 AM, Friday May 20, 2011 EDT
In your opinion what were some domestic failures of the bush administration dead.

I'd liken bush ii more to van buren and obama more to harrison though personally.
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