its impossible to have an argument with a gold fish that believed every single lie that was told him

Um, pretty sure it was Reagan that got those hostages released by the Iranians IMMEDIATELY following his inauguration. If Carter was still in office, literally in his office, sitting his fat ass down on his chair for another 4 years, we likely would not have seen the release of those people (and possibly went to war). Veta, ur stupid Republican vs. Democrat should is getting old, and it's also rather ign'ant.

Ya i forgot when carter invited the iranian terrorists to the white house my bad

Also, if it was immediately following his inauguration doesnt that kind of dismiss your point that he had anything to do with it?

well it was because they knew he wasn't gonna fuck around (unlike Carter). but im totally over arguing politics with people i like; gonna just stick to stupid/pointless posts again

You realize how ridiculous that is right? Presidents get credit for shit they have nothing to do with all of the time. That was one of those times. Do I think Barry deserves a lot of credit for telling the CIA it was their top priority? Well not really but just look at how his predecessor fucked up getting bin laden on multiple occasions. People less patriotic than me might suggest bush just really didn't care.

Bush certainly cared. One thing I always liked about Bush, despite his fuck-ups, was that I truly believed that at the end of the day, when he looked in the mirror, he felt that he was doing the right thing for his country, for our country. Now if you look at Clinton, Gore or Obama, you will see that they could give 2 fucks about this country and only want to boost their prestige and resume. You never saw Bush lie about his beliefs just to garner a vote. Same can't be said about them other fools.

BO did you know that the info that allowed your beloved messiah to steal the credit for getting Obama was obtained during the Bush presidency doing things that Obama doesn't have the guts to do? Namely make the damn terrorists talk no matter what.

Basically what I'm saying is that Osama was on the way to being killed when this info was obtained in '07.

Obama had very little do to with this. Although I will give him credit for actually going in and taking the guy out and not talking to the paki's (lesson learned from Clinton and Bush) and his address to the nation about the incident was the best speech I've ever seen him give.

Faking sincerity and not being able to project sincerity are two different things Harry. Bush was really personable and he could sound sincere when and if he wanted to. If you learn a little about his family's financial history I think you'll quickly realize he really doesn't care about you or me.

Generally conservatives are all about the "I got mine fuck you" attitude and liberals are about the "let's help as many people as possible" attitude. If you agree with that premise then you'd also agree that by definition liberals care more about the people, right?

I'll be honest man. I am the kind of person who fakes sincerity to get away with a lot of shit. It runs in my family. So when someone pulls that shit on me I recognize it.


"The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made."
Jean Giraudoux (1882 - 1944)

Generally conservatives are all about the "I worked for mine, when are you gonna work for yours?" attitude and liberals are about the "let's take from the ones who work and give it to the ones who don't" attitude. If you agree with that premise then you'd also agree that by definition conservatives care more about the people, right?