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The Society for the Cutting Up of Males, S.C.U.M. Manifesto
Marxism wrote
at 11:49 AM, Wednesday March 30, 2011 EDT
I'd like to preface this by saying that the author of this work, Valerie Solanas, was an ardent feminist and was kinda sorta joking when she wrote this. That being said, enjoy. I'm sure some of you have heard of the first part of this.

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and destroy the male sex.

It is now technically feasible to reproduce without the aid of males (or, for that matter, females) and to produce only females. We must begin immediately to do so. Retaining the mail has not even the dubious purpose of reproduction. The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

The male is completely egocentric, trapped inside himself, incapable of empathizing or identifying with others, or love, friendship, affection of tenderness. He is a completely isolated unit, incapable of rapport with anyone. His responses are entirely visceral, not cerebral; his intelligence is a mere tool in the services of his drives and needs; he is incapable of mental passion, mental interaction; he can't relate to anything other than his own physical sensations. He is a half-dead, unresponsive lump, incapable of giving or receiving pleasure or happiness; consequently, he is at best an utter bore, an inoffensive blob, since only those capable of absorption in others can be charming. He is trapped in a twilight zone halfway between humans and apes, and is far worse off than the apes because, unlike the apes, he is capable of a large array of negative feelings -- hate, jealousy, contempt, disgust, guilt, shame, doubt -- and moreover, he is aware of what he is and what he isn't.

Although completely physical, the male is unfit even for stud service. Even assuming mechanical proficiency, which few men have, he is, first of all, incapable of zestfully, lustfully, tearing off a piece, but instead is eaten up with guilt, shame, fear and insecurity, feelings rooted in male nature, which the most enlightened training can only minimize; second, the physical feeling he attains is next to nothing; and third, he is not empathizing with his partner, but is obsessed with how he's doing, turning in an A performance, doing a good plumbing job. To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo. It's often said that men use women. Use them for what? Surely not pleasure.

Eaten up with guilt, shame, fears and insecurities and obtaining, if he's lucky, a barely perceptible physical feeling, the male is, nonetheless, obsessed with screwing; he'll swim through a river of snot, wade nostril-deep through a mile of vomit, if he thinks there'll be a friendly pussy awaiting him. He'll screw a woman he despises, any snaggle-toothed hag, and furthermore, pay for the opportunity. Why? Relieving physical tension isn't the answer, as masturbation suffices for that. It's not ego satisfaction; that doesn't explain screwing corpses and babies."

There's much more that you can read here: http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm

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Boner Oiler wrote
at 10:33 AM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
nah liberalism isn't an ideology it's more like an attitude. ultimately the notions or liberalism and progress are what drove the civil rights movements of the 20th century.

tangent here, does anyone else find it ironic that conservatives try to own "freedom" and "liberty" and paint liberals as antagonistic towards such ideals? In reality liberalism gets its name from a 'passion for freedom' and liberals generally champion freedom over say conservatives who impose government on social issues (religion in schools, privacy intrusion, abortion, segregation, blue laws, gay marriage, in god we trust, etc).

BIG GOVERNMENT STAY OUT OF SOCIAL ISSUES.
Marxism wrote
at 10:40 AM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
The problem with liberalism is that it advocates freedom like communism but doesn't back it up in reality. Liberals endorse the existence to the state, which only exists due to the irreconcilability of class antagonisms. Liberal representative democracy is a step forward from monarchy, but still promotes the same class warfare as we saw before.
Thraxle wrote
at 10:41 AM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
So is it OK for a man to marry his dog and get a tax break for it?
Marxism wrote
at 10:41 AM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
and liberalism absolutely is an ideology, sorry that you Americans have completely fucked up the definition but liberalism definitely used to mean something other than "somewhat to the left of center"
Boner Oiler wrote
at 10:48 AM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

liberalism and liberals therein espouse a variety of views, liberalism rather is the championing of social freedom and equality. So it's closer to an attitude than an ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

Ideologies are very comprehensive like that of the Nazis, Christians, and Communists.
Tourney Champ wrote
at 1:42 PM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
communism doesnt work. the only reason i would work hard under communism is bc of fear from punishment and brain washing.

give me a system where i can reap the reward for my hard work; incentive.

command economies have failed time and again. look what freddy and fannie, the fed, and govt subsidies have done to the US economy.

look at the pervasive corruption and oligarchies in China, the USSR, Venzuela, Cuba. No thanks

i voted for ron paul, im conservative in my values, progressive in my notion of building for the future and helping my common man. and to answer your question preemptively (bc rumsfeld was all about preemption, lol) i dont buy your bullshit about me hating poor people, minorities and women marx. you dont know me so quit telling me what i think.
Marxism wrote
at 2:13 PM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
Communism certainly does work, and despite my fear of pulling a No True Scotsman, I would argue that many, if not all, of those countries that you listed are not communist, but socialist. They may have Leninist aspects, but by Marx's definition those are quasi-socialist states, under a dictatorship that claims to represent the interests of the proletariat.

That being said, communism doesn't breed laziness either. I know you've heard the phrase "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need", but there's another phrase that Marx coined: "to each according to his contribution". What this is supposed to mean is that, while communist societies guarantee a certain level of care to every person, those who contribute more to society DO receive more: steaks instead of rice, HDTV instead of radio (that's another thing communists are not: Luddites).

Either way, you're wrong, and this thread is about feminism, not my or your political beliefs.
Marxism wrote
at 2:15 PM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
And I never said you hated women, blacks, or poor people you ponce. I said that it is an empirically, statistically provable fact that those who self-report as liberals (should probably use neo-liberal here as these two things are not necessarily the same) often do not extend their beliefs to those outside their socio-economic/ethnic group. I was not talking about you specifically but neo-liberals as a whole group, so stop taking everything so fucking personally.
skrumgaer wrote
at 3:34 PM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
Marxism:

Your phrase "many, if not all", would mean that three, if not four, of the countries TC mentioned are not communist. Nothing like taking a definite stand.

Why not give us a list of countries that work and indicate how many of them, if not all, are communist?
Boner Oiler wrote
at 8:57 PM, Thursday March 31, 2011 EDT
you know what i think i actually heard of that study you're referring to.

anecdotal study or not, it doesnt mean that a liberal only preaches freedom for some which is what it sounded like you were saying
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