Yeah K8 needs to stop cheating.

Somebody needs to be knocked off their high horse I think.

OK, this is going to be long, I am not going to kid myself or anyone, but it's only meant for gurgi anyway

I don't mind apologizing or admitting I was wrong if it is needed. You will never see me sticking by a bad decision just because I hate to admit I was wrong. I truly think there is nothing I can blame myself for in this game, except not realizing faster that K8 might be doing me a favor. And I still think it's a "might". I only defend my own actions as I cannot speak for hers. Her moves can be seen by you as favors, you can also look at them as going for dom and keeping a west fight and a east fight seperated. Again, you need to discuss that part with K8, not me.

I did not call your pga accusations against K8 crazy. She did make moves where you have the right to complain about. But if you read my responses again, you will see I call your accusations crazy and cheap where you try to drag me into it. I also felt the thread was made more to try and hurt me than it was to hurt K8. You realy focussed on "jurgen did this" and then "out of guilt, jurgen did that". I really got offended by the tone. If there was any complaining to do about that game, why not simply focus on K8. This has been my problem all the time. Yes I tend to defend myself faster than K8 so it's true I was responsible myself for the discussion mainly being about me but I hope you can see where it all started in your initial post.

(kate messing me up was not your fault though and was only a small factor in this whole thing, i dunno why you are focusing on it. ---> now you know why I was focussing on it :P)

2) you did make it seem, if you didn't say it, that you were going to be 5th, which was why Green never hit you * more on Green later

Please agree that all players do the same: if you don't want to limit your options, you keep your flags vague. I never said I was ok 5th, I said I was ok 3 4 or 5. Blame green for not demanding a flag. Also he was having his fight, we were having ours. He could not risk moving to us and getting 2v1. When K8 blocked us, I honestly thought we were gonna roll of , which sounded as a good idea since I won my (screwed) fight and the others didn't yet but I could have 2v1 green. I must admit I didn't follow all action on the game as our fight was demanding my full attention but as far as I recall, green and brown weren't that much stronger than us (check their dom and their tiny reserves in your pic). In conclusion: I only clearly flagged K8 and murti, it's greens fault that he didn't make me flag or that he didn't move into my lands (he had 9 rounds to do so). I weakflagged to top2 and stayed bague to the others, that's a strategy all players use. That's not wrong or you should stop using it yourself to prove your point. (but I don't want you to)


^ i think that's enough right there to ban k8 at the least. --> another mod can ban if he feels like it was pga. It's true I can't be modded but if another mod feels I did something wrong, I will take a voluntary ban and just not log on to Kdice for the time they think is needed. They can tell me here or in private, I won't be offended if they really think I should take a vban. That game was the like the 5th game I played with K8 since I returned out of retirement, 100% sure we didn't play more than 7 or something. That doesn't excuse any move, I agree , just saying we don't play a lot together. So I won't ban her but to be safe , I will ask her never to do me any favors. That applies to anyone I play with. You have no idea how unfun it is to play as mod sometimes. One part wants to do you favors, one part wants to kill you for being mod. I am still learning how to handle this. I just want to play my main the way I always did.

your lucky loser paragraph and cheating: did I ever treat you as a compulsive cheater? if I ever did, I am sure it was a clear joke. We even joked about pga before that damn game. You know I think you are a very skilled player but that's part of the reason I felt so offended. You should know better than to think I was even remotely happy about a possible favor.

finally, a sincere thanks for saying I had no say in this.

I didnt see the game, i am only making a comment on the posts. Gurgi it's kates moves here that seems to have pissed you off. Jurgs is not a god (although he is gods gift to all things female :P) therefore didnt control what kate did. If one player jumps in and sacrifices to protect another, i cant see it as pga unless there is co-operation.

everything i say would just be repeating myself so ill leave this

Well I watched the whole game and it was just K8 decision to made Jurgen a favor and take some more dom for her. At one moment Jurgen thought that K8 will kill him for dom and made him 5th and he wroted that in chat. But K8 decided to kill green and to go on brown after that witch had nothing with Jurgen at all. Jurgen didnt asked for that and when he realised what is she doing he flaged out, even he could sit for 3rd. Pretty much fair from my point of view.

it's a new day, i stopped caring

Well, to be honest, Jurgen said " I did nothing to help K8" and yet he received completely undeserved help and protection. Then he got screened from other players and being carried over to higher spots. It sure looks like a most obvious PGA case ever. It could have been a one sided inntiative from k8 (to become "friends" with a mod), but I would sure expect so much more from a mod then to take part in such a behaviour (even if unwanted at the beginning). I am really desapointed.

Thanks for writing down what you saw E. T.

ZOOOMMG jurgz iz PGA?!?!!??!?!?


and heeeeees a mooooooooD??????

ZOOOOMG, BANHAMMER!!!


WHERE IS RYAN???

KDICE IS DEAD, EVEN MODS ARE PGA!!!!!!!!!!!

lets all go watch pr0n instead!!, I HEAR DDDY HAS SOME GOOD PAYSITES