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Fonias and Barbarian silent trucers, pga , friends today on 2k
Connan The Barba wrote
at 7:46 AM, Monday January 24, 2011 EST
Just for other players who see those 2 players on board to be awear of that pga.

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mo chara wrote
at 7:59 AM, Tuesday January 25, 2011 EST
so chloe if u sit at a table and leekstep sits aswell and 5more who u dont know sit..u saying u gonna silent truce with him before the game starts just cause u know he will...thats a pga...call it what u want but its not fair on other players
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 8:18 AM, Tuesday January 25, 2011 EST
mo chara, lets say you play a game, and there are two possible trucepartners for you. lets also say you cannot ask for a truce in the chat bc the entire table will counter. lets say you have played with both of them before, so you know one of them will accept a truce, while the other player stabbed you imediatly last time you tried to truce him.

will you try to truce the player that you know will accept? or will you set yourself up for a stab? do you concider this choise to be a PGA choise?

usually the player that would stab you have also taken unneccesary many terretories from you, while the other player have taken care not to step on your toes, and not to be in your way. In this situation, most players will try to truce the person that played nice to them.


the fact is that too often, too many times, it has happend. a good player try to truce a noob, disreguarding the signs that he is a noob. sometimes the noob outright stabs the silent truce, bc he didn't get it. other times, if he does get it, he will give up and try to flag to early in the fight, or just move bad. and being a lousy trucepartner in general.
superxchloe wrote
at 8:54 AM, Tuesday January 25, 2011 EST
If the board makes sense for me to silent truce leekstep, I would silent truce him. If the board doesn't make sense to, I won't. I will however keep an eye on who he does silent truce since he always truces his neighbour.
mo chara wrote
at 12:40 PM, Tuesday January 25, 2011 EST
i agree with what u saying chloe but my point is when top players silent truce with eachother the whole time is that not a pga..??and they just using silent truce to get away with it think there needs to be more ruling on this...i think silent truces leaves the game open for players to pga and get away with it..and on top of it they ask to kill eachothers islands no prob with this but in the 2nd and 3rd round they help eachother out thats a bit to quick 2be making a silent truce and 2be doing favours to improve a players position
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 1:52 PM, Tuesday January 25, 2011 EST
many silent truces are often decided by the first move. as in I have a 5 and a 4 stack, and you have two 3 stacks between them, if I choose to connect around you = "I want to have a silent truce" then when you are not hitting any of my terrs = "I accept"
superxchloe wrote
at 7:41 PM, Tuesday January 25, 2011 EST
what mr K said. How often do you play 2k mo chara? just out of curiosity. Silent truces are pretty much made first round and determined by starts.
jurgen wrote
at 8:25 AM, Wednesday January 26, 2011 EST
@ Connan The Barba: hi E. T.
E. T. wrote
at 9:19 AM, Wednesday January 26, 2011 EST
Hi Jurgen. Yes its my other account. I open that becouse I played last month very often on 2k and somethimes on 5k and get fucked by existing alliancies on high tables and had to play 500 table many times to get blue medal. Look at stats and u will see that I have played much more games to get to Top 25 then all others 24 players. Becouse I dont have friends on hiigh tables who can help me to get easy points like most of them. When I saw that I cant reach Top 3 and my blue medal is safe, I stoped playing and open other acc. Well I started only several days at the end of december and I get 99th place with only 61 games played. Its becouse I won 2k games few times when it was fair fight and not a lot of pgas. So this month I started to play with Connan the Barba acc more becouse its same to me what acc I use. I just dont like to someone steal my points on 2/5k becouse of that I am new on high tables and top players dont know me so its easy for them to truced against me. Also I like this game and I think that I am much better player then before and just wont to know how far can I get on Leaderboard and month list with my playing. Thats it. But I will get robbed on 2/5k by cheating on high tables ( many players complained about that ) Tell us what do we have to do then ? to play 100/500 forever ? becouse on 2/5k we will be killed asap and also if he spoke about pga then we will be called noobs, idiot, morons, and all kinds of simular stuff !!
jurgen wrote
at 9:56 AM, Wednesday January 26, 2011 EST
yes E. T., there is pga everywhere and let's all try and get rid of it

but it's not all as black and white as you think. You accused me of pga in the last freeroll tourney where I can swear that that was not pga. Sure the 3 most experienced players ended up top3 but that's not really a surprise in a freeroll I think.

I don't want to keep discussing it but all I know is that you did nothing except calling us out for pga play. If there had been another experienced player playing instead of you, he would have seen us 2 3 truce immediately and would have tried to find a loophole in that truce.

But not only the noobs are to blame in all cases, the experienced players can be wrong too. Sometimes I don't cut a player on purpose or move away, giving a silent signal I want us both to survive. Sometimes the other player doesn't see it that way and just wrecks me afterwards. You can get mad about that and call the player noob for not seeing an "obvious" peace offer. Then again, not everyone is that experienced and it's not really the noobs fault for missing it.
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