Monte, you aren't adding to the discussion. You are trying desperately to spread misinformation to confuse those reading forums.

1) backstabbing a player isn't what I am complaining happened to me, that happens to players who respect flags to a cheater.

2) The community amongst top players and members is where the cheating occurs and in an amount that sums up to just about the majority of all points won/earned/stolen whatever in a month.

So your attempt to make the issue confusing so others dismiss the matter, isn't going to work.

dean if you didnt present yourself as such a deaf prick, i would offer to follow you around and watch your games and point out to you how terribly you must be interpreting gameplay and strategy to conclude that 100% of the top players are cheating against you. lay off the shrooms.

imo this is hilarious coming from someone who has played <10 2k games and no 5k games, plus five members tourneys in the last week- of which he was in the money for three.

superxclhoe I stopped playing, and amount of games played is up in question at this time.

Choosing not to play with Pre Game Alliance and cheaters or having a life, doesn't mean the issue isn't valid.

This is a conversation, try to keep up with facts and relevant points or you seem just ignorant in all your actions forward.

Monte is so full of bs. While it's true that not every game is full of cheaters, top scoring games as some 500s, 2ks and 5ks have quite a few of them. So are the tourneys. Especially members.

Oh, but you're not supposed to know that, because who else they'd milk. Every time someone runs around the tables screaming "2k! 2k!" I lol, cause that mostly means a pga is set up and all it needs is cows.

dean, before you buy something, research the product. from what ive heard of members tourneys, it is a VERY closeknit bunch of players, especially compared to the regular 0 and 100 tables. these members are a very small population, and they play a very high percentage of games with each other. this leads to the point that they know exactly how each other operate, and they can also predict how they will work. if you keep playing members tourneys, you will begin to understand this, and will adapt too, so that you will know what they will do before they do it, and they will know the same about you.

i will admit that there is an inherent policy that the pack will look after its own. but i will also say that it is extremely easy to become a member of the pack, i.e. to earn their respect. it doesnt mean that you are a cheater, or that you pga. it just means that there is mutual respect, and they will play against you accordingly.

if you cant get their respect, i must ask you, why not? or maybe i should ask them.

Forum trolls are so outmoded. People are holding discussions and some sense of trying to look right, you spam forums and try to undermine other people so that you can feel "right".

Poisoned the game, poisoned the chat, now you want to poison the forums. Seriously move on Monte.

this whole rant against me is so hilarious because 1) im one of the nicest 'top players' towards 'noobs', i.e. i try to kiss their asses and get points that way, whereas others try to invoke fear, and get points that way. 2) ive been one of the top 2 or 3 biggest voices against cheaters in the past 3.5 years (and not just talking the talk, but in actions too), and 3) im one of the most active 'top players' in the forum who tries to bridge gaps between the 'top players' and the 'noobs' (others better than me at this are vermont and jurgen off the top of my head).

its a joke that yall are coming to these conclusions about me because im calling dean a troll because of how unfounded his accusations are.

Okay, you clearly have not been paying much attention to the forum other than this post and DDDY's because if you had been you would know I'm a research nerd. I stated facts, which are true.

You said "I see good players wondering why they just got destroyed by a backstabber on even paid boards (as in membership tourney's) and everyone just laughs it off." to which monte responded "backstabbing is not illegal" which is perfectly valid and not at all misinformation. From my perspective, monte's tried to help you in the last couple posts and you've completely disregarded what he's said and have written it off as nonsense.

Stop calling anyone who disagrees with you a troll and maybe listen for a moment.

sweet i trolled chloe into helping me.

^^ a decent final post of a thread page. we can wait for deans response as the 21st. cheers dean.