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The Moderation of KDice
Thraxle wrote
at 8:26 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
Good morning KDice community. I'd like to take a few minutes of your time to let you all know what I feel needs to be done to create a community that does it's best to eliminate cheating, scheming, and anything else that detracts from the fairness and authenticity of the monthly competition.

First, I'd like to give you a background on the business of my life these days. This will give you an idea as to why I'm not around much and probably won't be until April at the earliest. I'm 29 years old. I have a full time job. I'm married with a son who is almost 3 years old. I am in my senior year of college trying to earn my business degree, and my wife and I are trying to sell our house at the moment. You could eliminate any two things off that list and I'd still be pretty busy from day to day.

I tell you all that to explain why I can't be here to watch game after game or very few tournies. I know Ryan is an equally busy man and I can't speak for any of the other mods, but outside of me an Verms the rest were originally appointed to moderate sites other that KDice. I have asked Ryan many times to appoint more moderators and my request has been denied every time with the exception of Vermont. Even if we had 5-7 active KDice mods, we could still only watch about 3-5% of the thousands of games that are played every day.

I've also asked Ryan to allow the mods the ability to dock points and implement rc's on specific players. He hasn't said yes to either of these and I don't really expect him to. He doesn't have any reason to trust me, or any other mod more than he already does and I can understand him not wanting to give us too much power that can be easily abused.

Hopefully you are still reading this wall of text up to here, so I'll go ahead and get to my point. The only way KDice is going to be properly moderated is for the community to take charge and self-regulate the site. Now I know the forum is filled with PGA accusations and copy/pasted chat logs every day, but all of these posts are circumstantial at best and I WILL NOT moderate based on them. Screenshots must be taken and must show enough evidence to incriminate whomever you are trying to catch. The only information that can simply be posted on the forum and warrant a ban is a login ID and a password to prove an account is shared.

I personally do not know how to take screenshots and upload them to a website that allows you to share them. I am offering up a ***contributor badge*** to the first person that creates a post on the forum explaining how to properly do this. It should include the following:

-how to take a screenshot
-how to save a screenshot
-how to upload it to a website and save it
-how to share it with others
(please include a list of websites that can be used to upload screenshots)

If you are fed up with cheating and scheming, educate yourself on how to gather evidence and report it to me, or Verms, or any of the mods.

If you do not want to publicly post this gathered information on the forum, feel free to e-mail it to me at [email protected]. If you know login/password info to other players accounts (shared accounts) and you do not want to post it on the forum, feel free to e-mail it to me at [email protected]. I will be happy to keep my informants anonymous if you are worried about your internet ego. If you don't trust that I will keep your identity anonymous, create a fake e-mail and send me the information anonymously.

Please keep in mind that if you are trying to catch someone PGAing someone else, I will need a series of screenshots showing the entire game(s) and not just one screen shot of the end of the game. One screen shot isn't enough evidence to prove PGA.

While I may not be able to watch a lot of games/tournies, I do check the forum multiple times every day and I check my mod e-mail at lease once every day or two. If you want me to get information from you, either method is fine.

A long time ago Ryan said that he hoped the upper players would choose to self-moderate each other rather than allow the continual cheating and scheming. I think the site may actually be ready for this. Please share your thoughts/ideas regarding this wall of text.

Thanks,

Thrax

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GreGGwar wrote
at 9:56 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
oh nice. a '+' would sure look classy :o)

I never tried to capture videos of my screen, but it seems pretty easy with these freewares :
- Capturino --- http://www.capturino.com/ ---
- Jing --- http://www.jingproject.com/ ---
- Aviscreen : --- http://aviscreen-classic.en.softonic.com/ ---
bsn wrote
at 10:07 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
Isn't it easier to use jing software(mac/win) or skitch(only macs) for taking screenshots? it's much easier to take screenshot and upload it to public access in one click.

Jing is also suitable for recording and sharing videos
Retard Strong wrote
at 11:18 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
Ctrl+printscreen

paste in word document.

attach it to an e-mail and send to a mod.
happytoscrap wrote
at 11:20 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
Thanks for trying mods.

your unpaid job trying to corral a bunch of whining children is both thankless and never ending and i understand why things are the way they are.

here are my tips after playing a few months near the top.

1. figure out who the cheaters are. avoid them.
2. understand why you are playing this game. you found it....thought it was fun....and are still here. that is why you play. because its fun.
3. think about the mentality of those who need to win so bad at a free online game that they need to cheat. if they need it so bad, let 'em have it.
4. go for your own personal bests. thats essentially what life is about anyway. try to beat your highest score ever. don't worry about what everyone else is doing.
Retard Strong wrote
at 11:31 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
You forgot buy a membership boost
TheBetterYodel wrote
at 11:32 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
There is a bug that I'm not adam and a few others (Fiero600 and Integral (aka dick)) know how to use. The abusing player can use other peoples dices to attack. Now the attacks always fail but that means that he can take out everyone elses dice in one turn. Taking screen shots is really hard for this. What should be done?
TheBetterYodel wrote
at 11:32 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
There is a bug that I'm not adam and a few others (Fiero600 and Integral (aka dick)) know how to use. The abusing player can use other peoples dices to attack. Now the attacks always fail but that means that he can take out everyone elses dice in one turn. Taking screen shots is really hard for this. What should be done?
TheBetterYodel wrote
at 11:34 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
Weird double posting...I also forgot to say that I 100% DISAGREE that the site is ready for self moderation. Most top players don't give a flying fuck about cheating because they ARE cheating. They sit there and laugh about it and if they aren't cheating they are trying to figure out how to use the cheaters to their advantage....

Since a players main can't be banned for the actions his alt did there is very little enforcement possible for repeat cheaters.
Thraxle wrote
at 11:50 AM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
Yodel, there are those at the top who would happily rat on other......trust me on this.

And Ryan has been informed of said bug.

Also, I'm willing to hear thoughts on banning mains for the transgressions of alts. However, this requires some kind of proof that the alt is own by a particular main. Some are known, some are thought to be known but can't be proven.

I'd love to see a one account per one IP rule put in place. But the odds of this happening are less than me winning the lottery.
inty wrote
at 12:19 PM, Sunday February 28, 2010 EST
to save editing time alt+printscreen is good because it will just capture the currently selected window.

plus it saves you from worrying about personal info being leaked because of things on your desktop.
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