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Sick of people bitching about the flagging system
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fiero600 wrote
at 9:09 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT
Ok this is PROBABLY hand in hand with the 2007 post since i think those are the people whining the hardest but uh... LISTEN UP ALL WHINERS
The current flag system is in place because the other systems had flaws. LEARN-HOW-TO-ADAPT-TO-THIS-SYSTEM-OF-FLAGGING-AND-SCORING. Seriously guys, this is legit from all sides. Here's an example... say in round 5 or 6, there is a fairly dominant 1'st place, and a fairly obvious 2/3 fight.You are in either 2'nd or 3'rd place... sorta doesn't matter for this example. NOW WATCH HOW THIS WORKS. Say you have some random old school bitchy player.. lets name him player 'phoenix'. Player phoenix will try to old school 'silent truce' the other guy and hope he catches on.. which of course he wont since silent truce is a lost art. Next, the other guy will vflag since it will be round 7ish to the 1st place guy. Phoenix will stay silent for a minute and then 1'st place and the 2/3 guy will both attack him. Then he will begin to rant and bitch how gay the vflag was and how the other player was a pussy. By now, 4'th and 5'th will have converged on him, and he will get a fairly decently high dominant 5'th or 6th place and get knocked out while bitching. Lets plug another player that has actually adapted to the game into that same situation. For example sake lets name him dasfury. This player will immediately assess the situation and if it is before the vflag he will truce his other 2/3 opponent. He will in the process, attack only the smaller players, leaving his partner to fend off the stronger 1'st place. Then he will then from the dominant position, force his truce partner to flag and... TAH DAH! 1'ST PLACE!!!!! So what if the vflag has already occurred? NOT A PROBLEM FOR A PRO! Lets just assume that this player isn't phazed by the chat pwning and refuses to take down his flag for a promise of '1st place' that will eventually be taken back on the basis of something to the tune of 'you cut me off' or 'someone lagged out' or something to that tune. This player can say something like "you're flagging 2nd right? let me fight. Yo 1'st place guy let me fight these other people." Then while dasfury kills the other people, he takes the top position and eventually kills the 1st place as he didn't explicitly flag to him. Oh and if you're wondering... in the chance that 1st place attacks him to stay in the dominant role, dasfury would just convince the guy that vflagged that 1'st place is backstabbing or farming, and the vflag would help him out.... I dont know how many times ive watched good players win like this... it seems so obvious of strategy but the old school whiners just dont seem to get it. They see vflags as pussy flags and pga schemes instead of just another tool for strategy. So heres to you dasfury type players... thank you for pwning the old style and new style with little to no whining. And FFS guys... if you learn ONE thing from das its gotta be this... ADAPT |
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Thraxle wrote
at 9:09 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT lol
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Thraxle wrote
at 9:17 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT and btw, why are you sucking das's dick so hard today? Sam's adaptation is better than any of the "old schoolers" considering he won his only gold during this new era of vagina flagging.
Oh, and btw, das still whines about the current style of play, he's just stabs his flags in the back and turns it into 2007 play anyways. Ohhhhhhhhhh, and btw, stop trying to be like monte by writing essay style rants. |
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pooncrust wrote
at 9:19 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT Well, it really depends on the vflag... some of them are indeed pussy flags.
But in general I agree that they are part of the game and basically the result of the round 8 limit for real flags. Also: Especially at 500er tables, I've noticed that they get often countered anyway... |
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fiero600 wrote
at 9:21 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT SIGH
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fiero600 wrote
at 9:22 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT das and sam are in the same boat
both of these rants are the spawn of phoenix being so offended that i question the relevancy of players that were 'GREAT' but haven't played since march 2007 |
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vlf.fata wrote
at 9:43 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT While vflagging is a part of the game, there's something to be said about the types of vflags:
the "oh no I only have on territory left and its surrounded by 8 stacks please dont kill me (color), I flag" flag. - pretty self explanatory, its not seemed as bad because..no one wants to die like that. the "I'm most definitely going to lose so I flag to the powerful dude to fight for a lesser place" - the standard vflag. Now the flag that gets my blood boiling, is the "Oh look I'm powerful enough to take on the first place but you know what, I'm a pussy so I'm going to flag to him because I dont have the balls to take first from him." - sure you will lose 50% of the time, and you're doing a favor to 1st. But it just infuriates me that many people do this. Then again, i'm a guy who will make fun of anything about you. And I also have 0 points. I most definitely do not play for points. |
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Cal Ripken wrote
at 9:46 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT nah. it sucks. like, really bad.
at least the common style of play does, which I suppose is related to the flagging system, but w/e. either way, not going to "adapt" to this garbage. going to keep saying it sucks when I see it. |
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Cal Ripken wrote
at 10:09 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT seriously though. how can you watch people attack 6 lands, spread themselves out to a bunch of 2 and 3 stacks. VFlag to everyone around them and sit there for 3rd or 4th.
if you hit them, they bitch and bitch and bitch like they deserved something. |
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 10:27 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT The premise is retarded, to say that the old flags had problems so adapt to this even worse style of flagging?
Jesus how dumb are you to make that argument. I mean there are legitimate reasons why this flag system might be better just like their are reasons why old flag systems are better. So instead of supporting the easy argument that Nix is a whinner, which no offense he has been since elo okay pause for a tangent whinning has been part of the game forever it used to be an effective way to mitigate losses but wouldn't get you much traction is gaining points now it is an easy way to rake points and move up the boards many old school players whine occaisionaly but believe that you don't want to do it too much or be like the boy that cried wolf unfortunetly it seems pople are more open to whinning being an acceptable long term strategy, okay tagent over back to fiero being dumb. You made a stupid opening statement for an easily supported argument, nice FAIL. |
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Phoenix37 wrote
at 10:29 AM, Tuesday September 22, 2009 EDT I never stay silent for one minute.
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