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Simply Maths Noob's need to understand.
HappyStarABC wrote
at 9:33 AM, Sunday May 3, 2009 EDT
1st = 100
2nd = 50
3rd = 25


100/175 = 57.1% of points on offer.
50/175 = 28.6% "
25/175 = 14.3% "

NOT INCLUDING DOM.

-SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD U PLAY FOR 2ND.3RD.

IF YOU HAVE A 50% CHANCE AT FIRST, GO FOR IT, AND PLAY THE ODDS. - RISK/REWARD RATIO.

4 3rds = 1 1st,

if you have a 25% chance at FIRST, GO FOR IT.

LASTLY, DONT SETTLE FOR 2ND, IN A 3 WAY FIGHT.

2nd does not equal /halfway/ between 1st and 3rd.

DOM IS THERE FOR A REASON, be aggressive!! and stop flagging!





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HappyStarABC wrote
at 6:13 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
HAHA, MOST OF THOSE WERE IN A TOURNAMENT TOO,

FUCKEN NOOBS.
skrumgaer wrote
at 9:52 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
I have not posted the convolution integral (CI) for a while, but it seems to be germane to this thread. The CI represents your skill scaled to a particular level of table (that is, if all your games had been at the zero level tables and you had the same number of firsts, seconds, etc., what would be your score per game?). The CI is exact if you play at only 0 or 100 level tables and is a little off if you play at higher levels (because of dom) but still is a fairly good fit. For the CI, a first is 90 points, second, 40 points, etc. because it is corrected for the average gain of 10 points per game. Here are the top 100 arranged by CI.

CI Player
0.55 fiero600
0.51 Shevar
0.40 Homer Simmpson
0.35 Tomster
0.34 LulThyme
0.32 alanispani
0.30 Unfaithful
0.29 pizza_the_hutt
0.28 ZIGIBOOM
0.28 Linssen
0.27 Mazaman
0.26 Jslap!
0.26 jetsjetsjets31
0.25 Simons
0.25 Dark_lunatic_K
0.24 beyazguvercinus
0.24 the camel
0.24 Da Hand of Space
0.23 Vohaul
0.23 McKilla
0.22 dasfury
0.22 riccardo
0.22 Murmadamus
0.22 Dancerr
0.22 THE NIGGLER
0.22 HBergeron
0.22 fish28
0.21 talbotlives
0.21 haugra4
0.21 Damon87
0.21 juke_de
0.20 AMO
0.20 Easy A
0.20 DaShiVa
0.20 kaneda_z
0.20 savif
0.19 omalg
0.19 JeremyS
0.19 BLUNTMAYNE420
0.18 stakaboo
0.18 Fatman_x
0.18 Parian
0.18 JR junior
0.18 bcmatteagles
0.18 lesplaydices
0.18 salle888
0.15 shadolin
0.15 Toorn
0.15 Salmonella
0.14 finkebr
0.14 just_jack
0.14 Gabble
0.14 tryin'
0.13 panzer
0.13 skillz999
0.13 Zipl0c
0.13 PureOdyssey
0.13 T-800 Model 101
0.12 RandomOunce
0.12 than
0.12 Rsquared
0.12 jilm2
0.11 snoopdog
0.11 Dirty.H.
0.10 nodice4u
0.10 Takadade
0.10 Coconutt
0.10 imanema
0.10 ffbsensei
0.09 wiggin1
0.09 unike
0.09 leeeroy jenkins
0.09 SodaPop
0.09 kakku man
0.09 potent potable
0.09 Riskkk
0.09 Mr.Maxwell
0.09 Hisbop
0.09 LOren.
0.09 flizza
0.08 Jitterbug
0.08 [- y c a r u -]
0.08 captainLAGER
0.08 sabr5
0.08 masterDD
0.07 Zippi
0.07 NinjaPirate
0.06 WILenin
0.06 greekboi
0.03 viana
0.02 dr. zoidberg 69
0.01 fcuku
0.01 Mitsi the cat
0.01 NIKE10
0.01 ImbettathanAnish
0.01 atta de heerser
0.01 Chris0123
-0.01 jethr0
-0.01 fletch85
-0.02 junfire
skrumgaer wrote
at 9:56 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
A correction. The CI is not your points per game (PPG) but your points earned per point of buyin (or PPG/buyin).
Shevar wrote
at 9:56 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
well done fiero.
MadHat_Sam wrote
at 10:02 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
Anyone says that politics trumps going for first in a game is a moron that should be beat to death with a shovel.

I mean sure there is a political side of the game use that to get yourself first.
skrumgaer wrote
at 10:15 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
Also, just for fun, I am posting the baseball style standings: each place behind first loses an addition sixth of a place; game not played loses half a game.

GB Player
---- LulThyme
8 kaneda_z
11 riccardo
15 ZIGIBOOM
19 savif
20 T-800 Model 101
20 DaShiVa
20 imanema
22 tryin'
23 Shevar
25 Salmonella
25 HBergeron
25 Jslap!
25 jetsjetsjets31
25 beyazguvercinus
26 BLUNTMAYNE420
26 omalg
26 shadolin
26 salle888
26 Dark_lunatic_K
26 fish28
27 Mazaman
27 Fatman_x
27 McKilla
28 stakaboo
28 LOren.
28 Tomster
28 pizza_the_hutt
29 Gabble
29 Unfaithful
30 Vohaul
30 JR junior
30 fiero600
31 panzer
31 skillz999
31 AMO
31 talbotlives
31 Coconutt
31 Da Hand of Space
31 haugra4
32 jilm2
32 greekboi
32 sabr5
32 alanispani
32 wiggin1
32 bcmatteagles
32 JeremyS
32 Damon87
32 than
33 Hisbop
33 Dancerr
33 Murmadamus
33 Linssen
33 Parian
33 RandomOunce
33 Simons
34 juke_de
34 just_jack
34 the camel
34 Takadade
34 Jitterbug
35 Easy A
37 potent potable
37 [- y c a r u -]
38 kakku man
38 Mr.Maxwell
38 dasfury
38 lesplaydices
38 Riskkk
38 WILenin
38 unike
38 Zippi
39 PureOdyssey
39 flizza
40 Zipl0c
40 Toorn
40 masterDD
40 SodaPop
41 Rsquared
41 Dirty.H.
41 viana
42 leeeroy jenkins
42 finkebr
42 Homer Simmpson
42 ffbsensei
43 fcuku
44 snoopdog
44 NinjaPirate
44 nodice4u
44 captainLAGER
45 THE NIGGLER
45 NIKE10
45 ImbettathanAnish
46 fletch85
47 Chris0123
48 jethr0
50 atta de heerser
50 Mitsi the cat
51 dr. zoidberg 69
53 junfire
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 11:55 AM, Monday May 4, 2009 EDT
"Mr Kreuz, shit ur an idiot,

PPG = sum of all points/games played.
- your highest trophey is 18th.. LOL,

im talking about top 4 places,
which 1st>2nd>3rd>4th --< BUT THE PROPORTIONS OF CHANGE ARE NOT EQUAL.

3 players left, 33% chance at 1st/2nd/3rd, you should always play for 1st.

as over 'a million' games you will earn more points. as

0.33*(1st) + 0.33*(2nd) + 0.33*(3rd) is greater than

1*(2nd)

MR KREUZ - 156 PPG IN APRIL, LOL - UR SHIT "

you are rigth, i never had or will ever have time to play 400 games a month. but i find it sad that you would choose to use a month i only played 28 games, and had to do it without membership from the 0 tables. and i had 35 % 1sts that month.

my argument was that the style that gives you more 1sts also increases the chanses of failures. and you cannot separate the end of the game from the beginning. in this situations with vflagging the players ARE flagging when 5th-7th is a possibility.

Don't come dragging here with maths that dont look at the entire picture, and statistics where you refuse to look at the entire picture, and to mix it up you just choose to get in some insults without any foundation. if you want to sound like a 12 year old boy that have not learned how to argue, please continue, but warn me so that i don't have to waste any more time reading and replying to your posts.
HappyStarABC wrote
at 2:58 AM, Tuesday May 5, 2009 EDT
i apologise for the cheap shots, kreuz

but you seem to have ignored the message I was sending,

sure the points work in reverse.-

-but i was depicting a situation were u have 3 big players - and everyone flags - instead of going for the prize.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 7:09 AM, Tuesday May 5, 2009 EDT
ah, that situation is obv. but i did not see that it was the only situation you described in your post. nthe only reason to flag then is if you belive they will team up against you. if the do that you should say that you flag 2nd and try to have them figth for 1st/3rd (still ONLY if they team up against you (or you want to leave and don't have time))

i am one of the players that have been on both sides. A year ago (march 08) i "played for 2nd" that month I got my 0% 7th, (i also had another 0 % 7th later with top 25) but as the style changed for most players, so did what i consider the "best" style. and the best style nowadays i belive is go hard for 1st. and players that have done that well is me (months wih more than 30 % 1sts) sam, and das.

but a point about the "best" style is that i belive that the best style at any given point is the best counterstratigy against what players most are playing. so when so may players play for 2nd, then it will be easier for go getter players to get more 1sts, but it can be reversed. if all players go for 1st or bust, then you should go for 2nd and 3rd while cutting deals.
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